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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:11 AM
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@AMIRZA786 @Striker223 @FrankReynoldsCPA If I replace the Supra, it will be for one of these. This is insane!!

Race starts at 3:10
Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:23 AM
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I used Costco once for tires, wouldn't be my first choice lol
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
Amirza didn’t you say you beat your friend’s M4 in your Tesla?

@AMIRZA786 @Striker223 @FrankReynoldsCPA If I replace the Supra, it will be for one of these. This is insane!!

Race starts at 3:10
It wasn't a Tesla, it was my Polestar. And it was a Comp, not a CS, which is an insane car. Also it's RWD. And it was off the line to about 80. He didn't brake boost. Rolling race it was more close. I wouldn't race a CS with anything less than a Model S, that thing would eat my former Polestar for breakfast
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
It wasn't a Tesla, it was my Polestar. And it was a Comp, not a CS, which is an insane car. Also it's RWD. And it was off the line to about 80. He didn't brake boost. Rolling race it was more close. I wouldn't race a CS with anything less than a Model S, that thing would eat my former Polestar for breakfast
🤣🤣🤣. That CS launch is insane!!
Old Feb 11, 2025 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
🤣🤣🤣. That CS launch is insane!!
I thought it must have a mild hybrid system, but nope. It just uses lightweight construction, and has a CF body
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I thought it must have a mild hybrid system, but nope. It just uses lightweight construction, and has a CF body
When you feel what a full boost launch can be you won't want a heavy/useless hybrid system lol!
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I thought it must have a mild hybrid system, but nope. It just uses lightweight construction, and has a CF body
CF hood and trunk. The rest of the body is steel like the regular M3. Full CF body is only on the $750k 3.0 CSL.
Old Feb 11, 2025 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
CF hood and trunk. The rest of the body is steel like the regular M3. Full CF body is only on the $750k 3.0 CSL.
Thanks for the correction. That's still a big, giant hood, probably brings the weight down quite a bit
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Thanks for the correction. That's still a big, giant hood, probably brings the weight down quite a bit
Saves somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 lbs. Stock hood is aluminum and weighs about 28 lbs. I don't know what the OE CF hood weighs, but the RW Carbon is 20 lbs, and the Alpha N vented one is 17 lbs.

CS overall is 25 lbs lighter than the lightest configuration of Competition xDrive. M4 CSL is 149 lbs lighter than the lightest configuration of RWD M4.
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Originally Posted by geko29
Saves somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 lbs. Stock hood is aluminum and weighs about 28 lbs. I don't know what the OE CF hood weighs, but the RW Carbon is 20 lbs, and the Alpha N vented one is 17 lbs.

CS overall is 25 lbs lighter than the lightest configuration of Competition xDrive. M4 CSL is 149 lbs lighter than the lightest configuration of RWD M4.
10lbs doesn't sound like much, but is pretty significant. Imagine you are holding a 10 lbs bowling ball and you put it down. I lost 10 lbs and it actually made quite a difference. Now 25 lbs, doesn't sound like a lot, but seems to make a difference seeing the CS launch. Although there may be more going on than just weight
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
10lbs doesn't sound like much, but is pretty significant. Imagine you are holding a 10 lbs bowling ball and you put it down. I lost 10 lbs and it actually made quite a difference. Now 25 lbs, doesn't sound like a lot, but seems to make a difference seeing the CS launch. Although there may be more going on than just weight
It's effectively running a factory installed stage 1 tune, any of the normal cars can do this with a reflash.....

There are also the obvious trim and fancy bits and the engines are given extra care and the top shelf parts but end result is essentially a hotter factory tune.

Modern German turbo cars are insane in terms of what they can actually do vs what they are tuned to do factory/emissions restricted etc. +200 hp is very expected from software alone for the V8s
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BMW designed that entire platform to absolutely destroy the 0-60, refining each bit continuously. The software stack on the tc and lc systems is class dominating. Thankfully recently they decided to keep the next gen i6, and not some c63s abomination, but i havent heard if they also quit the hybrid plans (if they do its gonna be heavy).
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Originally Posted by Framestead
BMW designed that entire platform to absolutely destroy the 0-60, refining each bit continuously. The software stack on the tc and lc systems is class dominating. Thankfully recently they decided to keep the next gen i6, and not some c63s abomination, but i havent heard if they also quit the hybrid plans (if they do its gonna be heavy).
My current understanding is that there will be two completely independent models:
  • G84 M3: Evolution of the current G80 on the CLAR platform, with a 48v Mild Hybrid S58. Not a full PHEV like the M5 or C63s
  • ZA0 M3: Full EV on the Neue Klasse platform. Quad motor, 1,000+ hp
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Honda Accord with 4wheel steering
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Originally Posted by geko29
My current understanding is that there will be two completely independent models:
  • G84 M3: Evolution of the current G80 on the CLAR platform, with a 48v Mild Hybrid S58. Not a full PHEV like the M5 or C63s
  • ZA0 M3: Full EV on the Neue Klasse platform. Quad motor, 1,000+ hp
That should be illegal.
Nobody needs that much horsepower!



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