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Stay off the road. If you are blind or stupid enough to not notice or get in the way of the rolling render error it's natural selection IMO
Originally Posted by SW17LS
Makes sense
You say that, but people plow through crosswalks all the time, and it can happen to you or somebody you care about too. Why not have cars be designed in such away that makes them safer for everyone?
Originally Posted by Striker223
If someone I know does something that dumb they deserved it, happened to my wife actually before I met her. She got hit by a jeep because she stupidly wasn't paying attention. If I choose to step into the street it's on me to make sure there isn't a car that is going to hit me regardless of crosswalk etc, physics doesn't give a damn about right of way
Originally Posted by JDR76
As a pedestrian (a runner) I’ve been hit twice, and my wife once, by cars blowing out of driveways or across crosswalks.
In no case did either of us step into the street or deserve that.
Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Yep, I agree. I walk my GS almost everyday, and we've almost been hit by people blowing stop signs or making turns without looking. I have no trust in other drivers, so although I make sure the way is clear and always make eye contact, there's still been close calls
Originally Posted by SW17LS
So if your wife was killed in that situation your eulogy would have been "she deserved it"?
You're a real swell guy.
In any event, even IF its somebody's fault, what is wrong with designing a car in such a way that reduces their likelihood of injury and increases their chances of survival?
Recently an elderly gentleman leaving church was walking across the street to his vehicle when he was truck by a passing vehicle on its front passenger side. Several people went out to render aide until the EMS arrived and took him to the hospital.. Several days later the gentleman succumbed to his injuries. The speed limit on the road is 35-45mph I believe and the car was coming around a curve, imo, was maybe looking at others coming out of church and didn’t see the gentleman just steps from being out of the road. The driver of the vehicle was an elderly woman with a little disability as she got out of her vehicle with a cane.
Now’s there’s a police officer placed the at scene of the accident during/after church.
Now’s there’s a police officer placed the at scene of the accident during/after church.
Some churches, particularly larger ones with a lot of traffic in and out on Sundays, have had Traffic-Directors for years...that's not new. Usually, it's either Police-Officers or Volunteers from the church itself doing it.
Yep, she didn't check and stupidly assumed. That's on the person who didn't bother to check if an 1800+ lb object was going to intersect with them or not.
Take your hood star off and I'll believe you care about that lol!
Well luckily the people in charge of these things care about others.
And the hood star is spring loaded and can’t hurt anybody. That’s by design, because the people who designed it would like their vehicle to not hurt people unnecessarily.
Originally Posted by Toys4RJill
I think it’s pretty cool. Are you close to the Masters? I wonder if they do that for every Mercedes out there?
No the Masters is played down in GA. I’m sure they all do that. I agree these little things are cool.
Recently an elderly gentleman leaving church was walking across the street to his vehicle when he was truck by a passing vehicle on its front passenger side. Several people went out to render aide until the EMS arrived and took him to the hospital.. Several days later the gentleman succumbed to his injuries. The speed limit on the road is 35-45mph I believe and the car was coming around a curve, imo, was maybe looking at others coming out of church and didn’t see the gentleman just steps from being out of the road. The driver of the vehicle was an elderly woman with a little disability as she got out of her vehicle with a cane.
Now’s there’s a police officer placed the at scene of the accident during/after church.
I was always taught that if I am the one in the more survivable vehicle then it’s my responsibility to give those in less survivable situations a wide berth whether they are following the law or not. So if I’m in a car I need to look out for motorcyclists, bicycles, pedestrians etc.
Mr Striker... when it comes to technical knowledge of vehicles, you're the man. When it comes to safety design, I want you as far away from the design room as possible
Mr Striker... when it comes to technical knowledge of vehicles, you're the man. When it comes to safety design, I want you as far away from the design room as possible
I was always taught that if I am the one in the more survivable vehicle then it’s my responsibility to give those in less survivable situations a wide berth whether they are following the law or not. So if I’m in a car I need to look out for motorcyclists, bicycles, pedestrians etc.
Great point!!
Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Mr Striker... when it comes to technical knowledge of vehicles, you're the man. When it comes to safety design, I want you as far away from the design room as possible
Irrelevent. Hood ornaments today (on what very few vehicles that still have them) are, by Federal regulation, spring-loaded, so that they bend back and forth on impact rather than dig into people's bodies when they hit someone. Unfortunately, it also makes them easier for idle teen-age kids, who don't have anything better to do in their spare time, to break them off and collect them....that has become a fad.
Uh no, it would still be safer if there was nothing there.
Recently an elderly gentleman leaving church was walking across the street to his vehicle when he was truck by a passing vehicle on its front passenger side. Several people went out to render aide until the EMS arrived and took him to the hospital.. Several days later the gentleman succumbed to his injuries. The speed limit on the road is 35-45mph I believe and the car was coming around a curve, imo, was maybe looking at others coming out of church and didn’t see the gentleman just steps from being out of the road. The driver of the vehicle was an elderly woman with a little disability as she got out of her vehicle with a cane.
Now’s there’s a police officer placed the at scene of the accident during/after church.
So both people who aren't paying proper attention......
Not only that if you don't automatically dial back speed in a non-standard situation on a road you are again stupid. It's like watching idiots still try and drive 5 over when it's fresh snow. No adaption to conditions at all
Well luckily the people in charge of these things care about others.
And the hood star is spring loaded and can’t hurt anybody. That’s by design, because the people who designed it would like their vehicle to not hurt people unnecessarily.
No the Masters is played down in GA. I’m sure they all do that. I agree these little things are cool.
The star will still cause more damage than a smooth hood, if you care then take it off lol!
Mr Striker... when it comes to technical knowledge of vehicles, you're the man. When it comes to safety design, I want you as far away from the design room as possible
Oh you would like it, car would prioritize the driver over all else. As they should
Can you imagine a sales add for a new car that claims "we made sure to make this as light as possible and deform in a crash to minimize risk to the other cars, it will kill you as we made the crumple zone extend to the back seat but for the other car it's CRAZY good for impulse reduction"
That's the stupidity this is. Stay the hell out of the road, respect reality that the car is way heavier than you are and regardless of what the rules all it will win if you interact. I've seen someone dismembered by car and it really drives home none of this "safer shape" nonsense matters when there is THAT level of weight and energy difference. What matters is the car positions itself correctly and that people are very aware of the fact that the roads are not for them and also stay in the correct places.
So both people who aren't paying proper attention......
Not only that if you don't automatically dial back speed in a non-standard situation on a road you are again stupid. It's like watching idiots still try and drive 5 over when it's fresh snow. No adaption to conditions at all
The pedestrian from my understanding was a step or 2 from being completely out of the street. Again the car was coming around a curve and maybe became distracted looking left over at the church instead of what was directly in front of her. It was just an unfortunate incident.
Oh you would like it, car would prioritize the driver over all else. As they should
Can you imagine a sales add for a new car that claims "we made sure to make this as light as possible and deform in a crash to minimize risk to the other cars, it will kill you as we made the crumple zone extend to the back seat but for the other car it's CRAZY good for impulse reduction"
That's the stupidity this is. Stay the hell out of the road, respect reality that the car is way heavier than you are and regardless of what the rules all it will win if you interact. I've seen someone dismembered by car and it really drives home none of this "safer shape" nonsense matters when there is THAT level of weight and energy difference. What matters is the car positions itself correctly and that people are very aware of the fact that the roads are not for them and also stay in the correct places.
Pedestrian safety requirements in Europe in particular are about maximizing pedestrian safety at lower city and urban speeds, not extreme speed, and is absolutely possible to strike a balance between occupant safety, crash survivability and pedestrian safety because those same Europeans are still building excellent cars that comply with all these regulations.
The pedestrian from my understanding was a step or 2 from being completely out of the street. Again the car was coming around a curve and maybe became distracted looking left over at the church instead of what was directly in front of her. It was just an unfortunate incident.
I don't disagree it was unfortunate at all, but that's why you shouldn't drive unless you are able to fully focus and your intent is to drive and do nothing else. Problem is people don't take it very seriously
