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Old Feb 24, 2025 | 04:26 PM
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I'll still have my V8. I'll have disappeared into the mountains and nobody will find me, however.
Well, if you see this behind you, better run


Old Feb 24, 2025 | 04:41 PM
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V8s are coming back, I wouldn't worry too much.

There won't ever be a plethora of them (unfortunately) like before but there will be V8 cars and trucks out there.
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Saw that Mercedes is going to go to a flat-plane crank V8 in the C63. I think that's a shame, because a flat-plane V8 doesn't really fit the character of the AMG cars. These are supposed to be German muscle cars. All grunt and rumble. Instead it'll be a high revving buzzer that just doesn't sound as good or have as much low end response(same reason why a Mustang GT would be more pleasant to daily than a GT350).

They plan to use augmented(electronic) sound in the cabin to make it feel like a classic V8.
Old Feb 24, 2025 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Saw that Mercedes is going to go to a flat-plane crank V8 in the C63. I think that's a shame, because a flat-plane V8 doesn't really fit the character of the AMG cars. These are supposed to be German muscle cars. All grunt and rumble. Instead it'll be a high revving buzzer that just doesn't sound as good or have as much low end response(same reason why a Mustang GT would be more pleasant to daily than a GT350).

They plan to use augmented(electronic) sound in the cabin to make it feel like a classic V8.
I have no doubt it's going to use a hybrid system to "fill in" the low end and they will claim it's the same as a massive supercharged crossplane V8......probably turbo as well so you don't even get that insane NA flat plane surge
Old Feb 24, 2025 | 06:39 PM
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This is one of the reasons I've lost interest in modern engines. In the last two years the best new engines I've experienced are the M3 and M4 Comp, and the M430i. Most everything else is boosted and hybrid. I also like the Coyote, but not much else past 2020
Old Feb 24, 2025 | 07:37 PM
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Uh dumb question, do we have a bikes subforum? I know near nothing about them and wanted to see if anyone here knows things
Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:23 PM
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Well I am totally tempting the weather gods but I put my carpeted mats back in tonight lol


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Well I am totally tempting the weather gods but I put my carpeted mats back in tonight lol

You have doomed us all!
Old Feb 24, 2025 | 08:57 PM
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Yep, it’s all my fault!
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Saw that Mercedes is going to go to a flat-plane crank V8 in the C63. I think that's a shame, because a flat-plane V8 doesn't really fit the character of the AMG cars. These are supposed to be German muscle cars. All grunt and rumble. Instead it'll be a high revving buzzer that just doesn't sound as good or have as much low end response(same reason why a Mustang GT would be more pleasant to daily than a GT350).

They plan to use augmented(electronic) sound in the cabin to make it feel like a classic V8.
agreed, and even though it's at a slightly different price point and relevance to us lol i feel the same way about the agera vs jesko

the flat plane V8 is essentially two I4s mated to a common crankshaft so i'm sure it was just easier and cheaper to switch their current engine to a V8 by making it flat plane, and then they get to say they "have a V8" again

on a slightly different note, would it be so difficult to make it a cross plane I4 like a yamaha R1? that actually sounds like your more traditional V8 than a flat plane does


Old Feb 25, 2025 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Uh dumb question, do we have a bikes subforum? I know near nothing about them and wanted to see if anyone here knows things
I used to ride bikes. I’ve been out for 10+yrs. Last bike was a ‘08 Gixxer 1000


Old Feb 25, 2025 | 04:26 AM
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Well I am totally tempting the weather gods but I put my carpeted mats back in tonight lol
so the inevitable question... why?

also... what's the low toggle switch on the door for?




Old Feb 25, 2025 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
also... what's the low toggle switch on the door for?
That's where the hatch/trunk release is in both the Q7 and M3, so I'm assuming all 3 of the Germans do it the same way.
Old Feb 25, 2025 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
That's where the hatch/trunk release is in both the Q7 and M3, so I'm assuming all 3 of the Germans do it the same way.
The release switch is in that location on my 5 Series and X3.
Old Feb 25, 2025 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so the inevitable question... why?
Because I hate the feel of rubber mats and much prefer carpet. I prefer how they look and feel.

also... what's the low toggle switch on the door for?
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