most satisfying vs most reliable (2024)
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And with the PHEV TX not having a pano roof not even a sunroof option is a deal breaker for her. Apparently her and the kids like to look at the 🌌🌌👀 out the pano roof in the Rav.
I looked up the PHEV X5 last night but it doesn’t have a 3rd row although we don’t plan on using the 3rd row a lot but the times we need it will be helpful.
I know man. I’m pretty much putting my trust in Toyota on using a BMW engine and pretty much everything else BMW in the Supra. Happy wife happy life right so I guess there will be a X7 in the garage sooner than later. BMW owners on here know I’m pretty nervous about owning one. I’ve been picking their brain on their BMW experience. I feel more comfortable getting the xDrive40i over the V8 twin turbo found in the xDrive60i. It’s all new to me. Just this week I didn’t know the difference between the two. Also learning packages, options. Like I stated earlier BMW has never been on our radar. Take that back my wife mentioned it before we got the LX. I’ve been reading up on Bimmer post forum trying to learn.
@SW17LS The 48v mild hybrid has mixed reviews in the X7 community. My onIy other experience with a mild hybrid was in a rental Q5. I couldn’t tell what it did or what it’s supposed to do.
I looked up the PHEV X5 last night but it doesn’t have a 3rd row although we don’t plan on using the 3rd row a lot but the times we need it will be helpful.
I know man. I’m pretty much putting my trust in Toyota on using a BMW engine and pretty much everything else BMW in the Supra. Happy wife happy life right so I guess there will be a X7 in the garage sooner than later. BMW owners on here know I’m pretty nervous about owning one. I’ve been picking their brain on their BMW experience. I feel more comfortable getting the xDrive40i over the V8 twin turbo found in the xDrive60i. It’s all new to me. Just this week I didn’t know the difference between the two. Also learning packages, options. Like I stated earlier BMW has never been on our radar. Take that back my wife mentioned it before we got the LX. I’ve been reading up on Bimmer post forum trying to learn.
@SW17LS The 48v mild hybrid has mixed reviews in the X7 community. My onIy other experience with a mild hybrid was in a rental Q5. I couldn’t tell what it did or what it’s supposed to do.
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Also I recommend not getting the V8, they have always had higher chances significant issues and if you are still nervous just stay with the B58.
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Pass some of your luck over here!!
They say one thing BMW knows how to do is build an inline 6!! 530hp twin turbo V8 doesn’t sound too shabby!!
The X7 M60i now has the real deal S63 M engine vs what was in the pre-refresh M50i. I have read that they are more reliable than the N63 engine it replaced but I never had an issue with my X7 although I only had it for 3.5 years/36k miles so who knows if things would change the longer I owned it. I love having a V8 in an SUV but you can’t go wrong with the B58 in terms of reliability.
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The X7 M60i now has the real deal S63 M engine vs what was in the pre-refresh M50i. I have read that they are more reliable than the N63 engine it replaced but I never had an issue with my X7 although I only had it for 3.5 years/36k miles so who knows if things would change the longer I owned it. I love having a V8 in an SUV but you can’t go wrong with the B58 in terms of reliability.
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BayeauxLex, those warranties can usually be purchased at significant discounts from retail. You can buy from other BMW dealers if your own dealer isn't budging. You don't need to pay retail...
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That one was towed once ~12 years ago when it stalled and couldn't be restarted. This is one-third as many times as our RX350 had to be towed because the PCM had failed.
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One of my BMWs (along with the Audi) live on the driveway, because both garage stalls are spoken for, not to make way for a tow truck.
That one was towed once ~12 years ago when it stalled and couldn't be restarted. This is one-third as many times as our RX350 had to be towed because the PCM had failed.
That one was towed once ~12 years ago when it stalled and couldn't be restarted. This is one-third as many times as our RX350 had to be towed because the PCM had failed.
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As Striker stated, the inline 6 is going to your most reliable engine, and plenty for your wife. As long as you properly maintain it, which I know you do, you'll be fine 👍
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The 40i loaded to the hilt is the same price as the M60i with no options. Similarly optioned they're like $17k apart. $17k will buy a LOT of mods, and it'll be more reliable to boot.
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Also keep in mind that BMW lies about their power numbers. It's rated at 375/384. So it's probably a bit over 400 in reality. It'll absolutely be faster than the LX was.