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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Thats the issue I have seen a LOT with Mercedes, the interiors just do not hold up well if the owners aren't careful with them. I have a few poor GLKs that started out really nice but have been destroyed over the last 3-4 years.....

Makes me sad since they were very nice the first time I saw them/PPIed them and one is a diesel.
It is a little stodgy looking, the interior... but it's supposed to be extremely high quality.... like old E-Classes.

I've never checked one out in person, though.
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I don't speak sub-V8 unless it's my work car, then an I6 is acceptable it a diesel of any cyl count.

Never had a V6 other than my Jag and I didn't have it long enough to form an opinion on it other than it sounded unusually good at high rpm for a 6
Old Oct 23, 2024 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
It is a little stodgy looking, the interior... but it's supposed to be extremely high quality.... like old E-Classes.
Unfortunately they didn’t use the most durable materials during this time period.

This is what the drivers seat of every used W212 looked like when I was looking.

Well looks like I can’t upload a pic! But every single one had a split in the seat bottom.

My grandmothers W204 also did the same thing with only 60,000. And the headliner was becoming unglued. Garage kept!
Old Oct 23, 2024 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Unfortunately they didn’t use the most durable materials during this time period.

This is what the drivers seat of every used W212 looked like when I was looking.

Well looks like I can’t upload a pic! But every single one had a split in the seat bottom.

My grandmothers W204 also did the same thing with only 60,000. And the headliner was becoming unglued. Garage kept!
My buddy has a C300 and just had to spend $4,000 at an INDY for complex engine work, one of the cylinders wasn't firing. Junk. 70k miles. They really don't make em like they used to. Meanwhile there are still plenty of Gen 1 C-Classes out there engineered when Mercedes was still Mercedes that I'm sure have oodles of miles on them.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
I’m not aware of Opel having any involvement with that vehicle.

You’re a carmudgeon!
I don’t think they did, so sorry if my comment was misleading. My buddy used to be a Benz tech at a dealership and that’s what the techs used to say when putting down the lame little C coupe from decades ago. The techs he is still in contact with say the same about the A220. It’s a put down and not indicative of Opel being involved in either car.
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Unfortunately they didn’t use the most durable materials during this time period.

This is what the drivers seat of every used W212 looked like when I was looking.

Well looks like I can’t upload a pic! But every single one had a split in the seat bottom.

My grandmothers W204 also did the same thing with only 60,000. And the headliner was becoming unglued. Garage kept!
starting yesterday i had that problem too, they get to 90% and fail to upload... my personal laptop has an older version of OS X but the work laptop is brand new and that has the same issue
Old Oct 23, 2024 | 07:44 AM
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starting yesterday i had that problem too, they get to 90% and fail to upload... my personal laptop has an older version of OS X but the work laptop is brand new and that has the same issue
Same here goes to 90% and stops!
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Originally Posted by AJT123
My buddy has a C300 and just had to spend $4,000 at an INDY for complex engine work, one of the cylinders wasn't firing. Junk. 70k miles. They really don't make em like they used to. Meanwhile there are still plenty of Gen 1 C-Classes out there engineered when Mercedes was still Mercedes that I'm sure have oodles of miles on them.
Yeah I don’t get it. We had a 2010 C300 sport. 3.0L M272 V6 with only 60ish thousand miles. Engine was leaking oil and an undiagnosed check engine light. My grandmother sold it to carmax. She doesn’t drive anymore and no one in the family was interested in saving it.
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Yeah I don’t get it. We had a 2010 C300 sport. 3.0L M272 V6 with only 60ish thousand miles. Engine was leaking oil and an undiagnosed check engine light. My grandmother sold it to carmax. She doesn’t drive anymore and no one in the family was interested in saving it.
His car was in the shop forrrrrevvver. They couldn’t figure it out at first, just could confirm the symptoms. This is a very reputable shop I would trust my SL with, and have.

What a POS.
Old Oct 23, 2024 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Carfan94
Unfortunately they didn’t use the most durable materials during this time period.

This is what the drivers seat of every used W212 looked like when I was looking.

Well looks like I can’t upload a pic! But every single one had a split in the seat bottom.

My grandmothers W204 also did the same thing with only 60,000. And the headliner was becoming unglued. Garage kept!
The split in the seat was very commin but only with MBTex interiors, not the leather. They still have issues with splits with MBTex. This one I saw had leather and it was perfect.
Old Oct 23, 2024 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Im not interested in a 4 cyl luxury car either. Luckily most of those come with a 6cyl option at least.

Most people don’t care though. One of my agents is getting an E Class at my suggestion, she never even considered anything but the E350
Yep, the vast majority of G30's I see on the road are 530i's which have the B48 4 cylinder. People are buying the badge, not the car. It's why shopping used for these with the options you want is so hard. The market is flooded with lease return base models. They didn't want adaptive cruise or massaging seats. They wanted a badge.

Also the idea that an A class is just a downsized S class is patently absurd. It's a FWD econo-luxury car. I'm honestly surprised they didn't just farm it out to Nissan to build.



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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Yep, the vast majority of G30's I see on the road are 530i's which have the B48 4 cylinder. People are buying the badge, not the car. It's why shopping used for these with the options you want is so hard. The market is flooded with lease return base models. They didn't want adaptive cruise or massaging seats. They wanted a badge.
I'm sure the badge suckers are out there, but I believe the majority of these base model lease returns come from corporate car fleets. BMW has an entire program dedicated to it.

The new 5 and X3 have such a severe drop in interior material quality that I imagine BMW designed them for corporate fleets as their primary target.
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Originally Posted by FrankReynoldsCPA
Yep, the vast majority of G30's I see on the road are 530i's which have the B48 4 cylinder. People are buying the badge, not the car. It's why shopping used for these with the options you want is so hard. The market is flooded with lease return base models. They didn't want adaptive cruise or massaging seats. They wanted a badge.

Also the idea that an A class is just a downsized S class is patently absurd. It's a FWD econo-luxury car. I'm honestly surprised they didn't just farm it out to Nissan to build.
i'll give some leeway regarding 'just buying the badge' whenever someone gets a 5 series or an E class... most people are genuinely disinterested in speed, and realistically even the base 4 cyls are pretty quick with the turbo

i used to say that someone getting a C class was just buying the badge but now that mercedes has completely sold out and gone full buffet i say that for anyone getting a FF layout mercedes, an FR layout still provides a more special driving experience

has someone said to you that an A class is a downsized S class?!?
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
ihas someone said to you that an A class is a downsized S class?!?
bit did, but he's kidding:

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aw, no love for that huh... you know it is a shrunken cost reduced version of your car.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
bit did, but he's kidding:
ahhh... he was just taking the **** i see

these days you gotta finish with a "/s" at the end of your post just making a isn't always enough lol



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