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Old May 11, 2024 | 05:05 AM
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Thank God I'm not a Boomer 🤣 I'm a proud Gen X'er!
All you poor people belonging to only one generation. I'm a Gen X'er as well, but I recently learned I am also a Xillenial!
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Originally Posted by peteharvey
In the psychology and therapies industry.
They want dumb phones.
Moreso Gen Z.

​​​​https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/r...ental%20health.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90895233...or-dumb-phones
Yeah, not really. A few articles doesn't make a "push". Go into a store, there are just a couple flip phones like there always have been. If there were a "push" you would see industry moving to meet that demand and they aren't.

Going to a "dumb" phone over a Smartphone in this world requires a lot of sacrifice of technology and convenience, because more and more the world is revolving around the concept that everybody has a smartphone, and thats only going to grow. For example, in Disney you can't operate easily without one. You need it to effectively book rides and experiences and dining etc. Going to Disney without a smartphone would be very difficult and would result in simply having to stand in lines that are hours long. More and more carmakers for instance are relying on digital keys within your smartphone to be able to drive you car, and you're finding more companies delivering cars with only one key since people are going to be using their phones. Our system at my company for entering expenses and reimbursing ourselves for things requires a smartphone.

You're going to find more and more that physical credit cards aren't going to function and you will need the smart wallet within your smartphone.

You will always have fringe fashion, like this nostalgia drive that the article you posted talks about that makes flip phones cool because they feel "vintage", but that will only catch on so much because of the massive difficulty not having a smartphone creates.

Progress moves forwards, not backwards. I can't think of any area of society where once technology moved forward all of a sudden everybody said "you know what, I like it better the way it was decades ago" and have consumers choose en masse to go back. Vinyl records are a good example of this, many audiophiles like vinyl records, and vinyl sales have really increased dramatically over the last few years. BUT, you're not going to see society go back to vinyl records as being the most common way people consume music. Its a niche, and streaming music is in no danger of being replaced.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Vinyl records are a good example of this, many audiophiles like vinyl records, and vinyl sales have really increased dramatically over the last few years. BUT, you're not going to see society go back to vinyl records as being the most common way people consume music. Its a niche, and streaming music is in no danger of being replaced.
as i was reading your post i was thinking of vinyl records. reminds me of this cartoon.


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speaking of tech, now that i pay the majority of in person charges with my WATCH i think i'm going to just leave one card in my wallet for the luddite merchant than doesn't do tap and pay.

i was just in europe and never used a card once and didn't convert any currency.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
speaking of tech, now that i pay the majority of in person charges with my WATCH i think i'm going to just leave one card in my wallet for the luddite merchant than doesn't do tap and pay.

i was just in europe and never used a card once and didn't convert any currency.
I only carry my ID and one CC, look into the phone covers that have a little slot behind them for a few cards.

I love a fancy wallet and have a few but this is just so much easier and better.
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I only carry my ID and one CC, look into the phone covers that have a little slot behind them for a few cards.
I love a fancy wallet and have a few but this is just so much easier and better.
nice. i don't want my phone to be any thicker though so i'm not into those magsafe attachments.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
speaking of tech, now that i pay the majority of in person charges with my WATCH i think i'm going to just leave one card in my wallet for the luddite merchant than doesn't do tap and pay.

i was just in europe and never used a card once and didn't convert any currency.
Yeah, same. I pay for most stuff with my watch.

Originally Posted by AJT123
I only carry my ID and one CC, look into the phone covers that have a little slot behind them for a few cards.

I love a fancy wallet and have a few but this is just so much easier and better.
In Maryland we don’t even have to carry our ID. You can add your MD drivers license to your Apple Wallet and it’s accepted everywhere as the physical ID


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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yeah, same. I pay for most stuff with my watch.



In Maryland we don’t even have to carry our ID. You can add your MD drivers license to your Apple Wallet and it’s accepted everywhere as the physical ID

Neat!!! Wonder if you can do that here.. probably.

I got to use a CC machine the old fashioned way at the doctor's office the other day, the good ole' horizontal swipe. My CC is metal so it was realllllly satisfying......

Apple Pay gets on my nerves because it makes me look at my face before it goes through. I have hats on alot, etc. It holds me up a little sometimes.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Neat!!! Wonder if you can do that here.. probably.

I got to use a CC machine the old fashioned way at the doctor's office the other day, the good ole' horizontal swipe. My CC is metal so it was realllllly satisfying......

Apple Pay gets on my nerves because it makes me look at my face before it goes through. I have hats on alot, etc. It holds me up a little sometimes.
Only a few states have it, MD and AZ were the first 2, CO and GA also now allow it but thats it.

Very few places where you even can swipe cards with a chip anymore lol.

You can turn off the Face ID for Apple Pay
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yeah, same. I pay for most stuff with my watch.



In Maryland we don’t even have to carry our ID. You can add your MD drivers license to your Apple Wallet and it’s accepted everywhere as the physical ID

Same in California, the DMV here allows me to use digital driver's license. As payments, all my CC's are loaded in Google wallet, and I carry a physical one just in case I run into a merchant who's not with the times or like in the case of one, it wasn't working.

Also, both my Tesla and Polestar use digital keys, which is way more convenient. If my phone ever breaks, I have a key card for the Tesla in my wallet, and a fob for the Polestar.

No way I could ever go back to dumb phones
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yeah, not really. A few articles doesn't make a "push"...
I was only pulling your leg Steve.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Only a few states have it, MD and AZ were the first 2, CO and GA also now allow it but thats it.

Very few places where you even can swipe cards with a chip anymore lol.

You can turn off the Face ID for Apple Pay
It doesn't really matter anyway bc I have my DL # memorized if I get pulled over.

Very, very similar to this:



There is a rubber like material that keeps all your CCs snug. I've never had my ID or AMEX fall out. This is the best purchase ever.

Oh and I misspoke earlier.... I got to swipe the card vertically (not horizontally), which is the true old school way. It felt great lol.
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The reason why I have never been able to use a case like that is it keeps me from using wireless charging. I charge almost 100% wireless, the only time the phone is plugged in is when I'm driving the S560, because it doesn't have wireless Carplay. My wife always used a case like that and finally went to a magsafe wallet case so she could use wireless charging too.
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Geez...this thread is still running?

I actually happened on this funny skit about EVs and Teslas today....the amount of in your face honesty and actual common sense is amazing lol...esp at around 1:22 min


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To be clear, that video is about Tesla and the Cybertruck and is not about EVs in general.



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