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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 09:21 AM
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I thought CR was legit...
It's one of those beauty is in the eye of the beholder things. To some it is and to others it isn't. It's the same with JDP and other sources. Not a big deal either way.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I saw a "reel" with one with 200k but a friend of mine insists it's fake.

I don't see why it would be.
I'm not 100% sure, but I thought there is something about high revving V10 engines that could cause some issues with reliability. Or it could just be that the E60 M5 has clouded my abiliity to look at V10's objectively. So I'm just curious to see if Toyota was able to figure that out.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 09:46 AM
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i can't imagine anyone's put 200k mi. on an lfa.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
I'm not 100% sure, but I thought there is something about high revving V10 engines that could cause some issues with reliability. Or it could just be that the E60 M5 has clouded my abiliity to look at V10's objectively. So I'm just curious to see if Toyota was able to figure that out.
I know. I thought the same thing, but I would imagine the legendary Lexus durability would extend to a car that costs $400k.

?? Or am I wrong??

I would guess the V10 is very reliable provided you maintain it correctly.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i can't imagine anyone's put 200k mi. on an lfa.
There was a dude who put 33k on one in 9 months (on top of the 7k it had when he bought it) back in 2016, so at that rate he would have gotten there pretty quickly. But it was totaled by a transportation company and he moved on to a different car. There's also a woman in Japan who's put 148k km (92k miles) on hers as of about a year ago, so probably over 100k at this point. But no, haven't seen/heard of one at 200k yet.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
I'm not 100% sure, but I thought there is something about high revving V10 engines that could cause some issues with reliability. Or it could just be that the E60 M5 has clouded my abiliity to look at V10's objectively. So I'm just curious to see if Toyota was able to figure that out.
makes me wonder about the carrera GT and gallardos as well... the vipers are pretty stout but i guess that's not exactly a 'high revving' V10
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
makes me wonder about the carrera GT and gallardos as well... the vipers are pretty stout but i guess that's not exactly a 'high revving' V10
I'd say the LF-A V10 is way more reliable than all of those. We'll probably never know, though.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I'd say the LF-A V10 is way more reliable than all of those. We'll probably never know, though.
common sense would dictate that... however porsche always has a way of exceeding expectations and achieving surprising results that seem to defy physics lol (and are generally very durable and reliable, not talking about the cayenne or the other VW based models of course lol)

like just going off of the paper specs you could be forgiven for thinking there's no way the 918 could be faster than the P1 or LaFerrari around a track, yet somehow....
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CR does or doesn't take data from dealers/manufacturers?
Nope, only their surveys to their subscribers.

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'limited value' is very kind.
LOL, I try!
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I know. I thought the same thing, but I would imagine the legendary Lexus durability would extend to a car that costs $400k.

?? Or am I wrong??

I would guess the V10 is very reliable provided you maintain it correctly.
Originally Posted by Stroock639
makes me wonder about the carrera GT and gallardos as well... the vipers are pretty stout but i guess that's not exactly a 'high revving' V10
Originally Posted by AJT123
I'd say the LF-A V10 is way more reliable than all of those. We'll probably never know, though.
I'd say this is a safe guess, was just curious if anyone put meaningful miles on their LFA that could back that assertion up.

I agree with @Stroock639 though, I think aside from the 996, most of the Porsches that weren't VW derived have mostly been reliable. Its just that most people assume German = unreliable and Japanese = reliable, without even thinking about it much.
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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
I'd say this is a safe guess, was just curious if anyone put meaningful miles on their LFA that could back that assertion up.

I agree with @Stroock639 though, I think aside from the 996, most of the Porsches that weren't VW derived have mostly been reliable. Its just that most people assume German = unreliable and Japanese = reliable, without even thinking about it much.
the 997.1 Turbo S has been a long time dream car of mine! the last porsche to use the 'hans mezger engine' and still super reliable up to crazy power levels... and i know this part is subjective but to me every 911 before the 997 looks dated, and every 911 since then looks a bit too big and busy

edit: and the people who assume Japanese = reliable have clearly never heard the words Evo or RX-7 haha

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Old Dec 12, 2023 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
I'd say this is a safe guess, was just curious if anyone put meaningful miles on their LFA that could back that assertion up.

I agree with @Stroock639 though, I think aside from the 996, most of the Porsches that weren't VW derived have mostly been reliable. Its just that most people assume German = unreliable and Japanese = reliable, without even thinking about it much.
Yes I have found that true, not too surprisingly.

Coming up on a year of ownership on the 22 year old SL, motor mounts that I blew out having fun and some chassis brace part cleaned and remounted, that's it.

The difference is, you can't let these cars sit. That's the worst thing you can do.

German cars can be tanks if you start with a good one and treat it like a princess.

Remember, I found a 205,000 mile one of these that sold for $11k!! They'll run to death!!
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Old Dec 14, 2023 | 03:52 PM
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And every one of those brands are hideous junk.
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Old Dec 14, 2023 | 03:53 PM
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I should add Volvo, Alfa Romeo and other assorted Euro Trash.
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Old Dec 14, 2023 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
remember their 'reliability' data is only from subscribers who bother to fill out the surveys. i'd be surprised if they got more than 5 back on the LC

but i'm sure the pre-'24 infotainment would be deemds not 'reliable' because it uses the track pad.

CR stats are basically worthless in the modern age. just look up youtube videos for cars with however many miles you're looking for.
I'll sign you up for a subscription for Christmas. Then you can be the 6th person 😜. I know how much you love CR 🤣
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