People in this thread are poking fun at you because you take this all way too seriously and you don't let other people have different opinions or tastes without accusing them of all kinds of things. Case in point you said I have little interest in EVs and show disdain for them, which is totally absurd. Clearly I have a lot of interest in EVs and like them a lot, the fact that I recognize drawbacks and don't prefer them in every category doesn't mean I have "disdain" for them.

 

I'm not trying to convince you which is better and which you should prefer. I'm only stating that saying they are not competitors is a double standard. And the thing about disrespect, it goes both ways, calling people who advocate for Tesla being paid is not only an insult, but is pretty disrespectful

 

How about we don't constantly discuss gas only powered cars here, fair?

 

Again....I never said they were not competitors. I said they were very different. Go back and look.

I have always shown you plenty of respect.

 

We don't...how about you just let the errant mention or discussion of a gas powered car as compared to an EV go without making a federal case over it?

 

And I'm taking things too seriously.

 

OK, I'll settle for that. They are very different. But being different doesn't mean they don't compete. I personally know people who were in the market for an M3 or M4 and bought a Model 3P. The owner of this particular M4 Comp owns three Tesla's. He leased the M4 because it's basically a business write-off for him

 

Model 3 Performance slaps the Bimmer around a bit that doesn't sit well with some people.

 

Anyway I hope we've come to an understanding and cleared things up. I have no issues with your choices, I have no issues if you stay ICE or go EV, choice of EV and your criticisms, even of Tesla, doesn't matter if I think they are valid or not. And hopefully you accept my apology if you think I've slighted you

 

I don't disagree. He has three Teslas, but he also has the M4 Comp. They're just very different experiences IMO.

I absolutely accept your apology and I appreciate it.

 

I absolutely does, but that doesn't mean everybody who has an M3 Comp wants a Model 3 Performance. Not everybody cares about having the absolute fastest car, for many of us its about the experience of having and driving a great car and the experiences are totally different between the two. For me the Model 3 isn't a replacement for the experience the M3 Comp provides.

My desire for an EV has nothing to do with power or speed. It has everything to do with refinement and quietness. If I were looking for a daily car, I would want the Model 3 Performance because I value those things. Honestly I wouldn't even consider an M3 Comp...but thats because I don't really want that sort of car.

 

They are, and thank you 👍

 

saw a really nice looking Lexus EV.





also saw a Lyric V…. Sexy!!!

 

Ok Jill, the Lexus looks really nice. I admit it 👍

 

I see a surprising number of Lexus RZs around here. Like 2-3 a day.