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Let me just add to the above why I prefer charging stations over gas stations....no panhandlers. I have yet to run into a panhandler, beggar, or scam artist carrying a gas can saying they need $5 to buy enough gas to get home using various charging stations all over California for over a year. Last week my sister in law stopped at gas station, went inside to pick up something and someone smashed her window and took her bag with her laptop in it. Of course she shouldn't have left her bag in her car, but gas stations are the perfect hangout for the earth's scum
i thought previously you said you only had to charge once each way on your trips.
ok, serious question... if your Y had an option of 100 more miles of range, what would you be willing to pay for that? $1K, $5K, $10K?
if you only charge to 80%, your range is what, 220mi.?
No, it's two stops each way, usually a 12 minute and a 15 minute. For the Polestar, it's a 15 minute and a 40 minute..if the EA chargers are working, not being throttled and I don't have to wait for one.
Yes, probably around 220 miles with 80 percent. But the way the trip planner plans your charging it works out perfectly, so even if I charged to 100 percent, I would still be making two stops for bathroom and leg stretching
Honestly, I don't need 100 more miles. But if it was an available option and I decided to "upgrade", I wouldn't pay more than $5K
Last edited by AMIRZA786; Sep 26, 2023 at 10:53 AM.
The two most common cars traded for Tesla Model 3 might surprise you
A new study shows what vehicles buyers are trading in for used electric vehicles, including the Tesla Model 3, which is the most popular used EV in the US.
The top two vehicles tradded for the Model 3 might surprise you.
The study is coming from CarMax, which used it extensive used car data on its website to produce a look at used EV market.
One of the first important insights that came out of the study is the simple fact that searches for EVs on CarMax’s website doubled during the period covered by the study, which is up to February 2023:
This coincides with the surge in prices for new vehicles, including new EVs. It would make sense that more people turned to the used EV market.
The most popular EVs on the website are not really surprising since it matches new EVs that have been deployed over time in the US:
What might be more surprising are the vehicles that people are trading for the top used EVs.
CarMax found that the Honda Civic and the Toyota Tacoma are the two most popular vehicles being traded for a Tesla Model 3:
From September 1, 2022 to February 28, 2023, when shopping for the Tesla Model 3, the most common trade-in was a Honda Civic and the second most common was a Toyota Tacoma.
The former makes sense, but the latter, a full size pickup truck, is more surprising as a top trade for an electric sedan.
However, it is important to put things into perspective. Pickup trucks are so popular in the US that it makes sense that there would be amongst the top traded vehicles for any model.
But it is still surprisingly that it would be in the top 2 for the Model 3.
SUVs are the most popular type of vehicles in the US and therefore, it is not surprising that it is also the most popular type of vehicles traded for electric vehicles:
It’s also important to note that the used EV market is still quite young and inventory is still limited.
It should become a much more interesting market to dive into once there are more than a couple high-volume electric vehicles in the US market. Fortunately, that is coming very soon
It is becoming increasingly evident that the United States’ electric vehicle sector is Tesla’s playground, and everyone else is playing by the EV maker’s rules. Thanks to its head start in the industry and its quick pace of innovation, Tesla’s lead in the electric vehicle sector has become very prominent.
So prominent, in fact, that rival automakers are starting to look like niche EV makers that only produce low-volume cars.
Tesla mostly sells just four vehicles. The Cybertruck, arguably Tesla’s most anticipated car today, is yet to enter production, and the Tesla Semi is yet to be ramped. In comparison, veteran automakers such as General Motors have adopted a more traditional approach by releasing and announcing numerous electric cars for multiple segments.
Tesla’s lineup of cars may be very limited, but the company’s best-sellers, the Model Y crossover and the Model 3 sedan, are dominating the market by a considerable degree. As per data from S&P Global Mobility, Tesla has been able to outsell its next 19 competitors 10 to one during the first six months of 2023.
Tesla sold 325,291 vehicles in the United States from January to June, more than any other automaker. General Motors’ Chevrolet brand with its Bolt was a distant second with 34,943 sales. Ford, Hyundai, and Rivian followed after. The Chevy Bolt sold 35,000 units, while the Ford Mustang Mach-E saw sales of 13,600 units.
It should be noted that the Bolt and the Mach-E were positioned in media reports as rivals to the Model 3 and Model Y. Yet in comparison to the volumes of the Model Y and Model 3, GM and Ford’s EVs are almost like niche electric cars that are only produced in small numbers.
As noted in a Reuters report, such numbers are nowhere near enough volume to fill a typical assembly plant, which usually needs to operate at 80% capacity or more to be profitable. Tesla’s facilities like the Fremont Factory are at full capacity, and the EV maker is establishing larger factories today to meet the growing demand for its vehicles.
Veteran automakers such as Ford and GM have announced high-profile investments related to their electric vehicle programs, but with EV sales being dominated by Tesla, carmakers run the risk of maintaining a business that’s unprofitable. This could result in challenges for experienced carmakers, as producing EVs profitably is an endeavor that even Tesla has found extremely difficult.
Overall, Tesla has achieved a lead in the EV sector, and while competitors are aiming to catch up, the EV maker is a moving target, and thus, is very difficult to overcome.
Study reveals truth about the effects of Tesla supercharging on EV battery lifespan — what this means for the future of charging
As the electric vehicle industry is still relatively young (Tesla recently celebrated the 10th anniversary of its first Supercharger in Europe), there are still a lot of misconceptions and questions surrounding the batteries used to power EVs.
One such question is whether or not fast charging, also known as “DC charging” — which Tesla’s Superchargers employ — will damage the battery over time.
A new study published by Recurrent has revealed some good news for frequent Supercharger users.
After studying 12,500 Teslas, Recurrent concluded that “the results show no statistically significant difference in range degradation between Teslas that fast charge more than 90% of the time and those that fast charge less than 10% of the time.”
The data from the study also applies to EVs not made by Tesla, the researchers said. The upshot is: Don’t worry about plugging into that Supercharger — which will soon be available to more types of EVs than ever — and charging your EV as fast as possible.
Recurrent did caution, however, that an EV battery could be damaged by fast-charging during extreme heat, extreme cold, or when the battery is very close to empty or full.
DC (direct current) charging differs from AC (alternating current) charging in that it bypasses the car’s on-board charging system, limiting how quickly electricity can go into the battery. DC charging is almost exclusively available at high-tech public charging stations, such as Superchargers, while home chargers rely on slower AC charging.
Some of the confusion over battery degradation may have come from Tesla itself, as the EV company was recently rumored to have been lying about the range of its batteries, going so far as to rig the internal range-estimating software and create an entire “diversion team” to stop customers from making service center appointments when they realized that their ranges had abruptly dropped.
But the good news is that the health and life span of EV batteries seem to be getting better and better, based on this new study
Before I got my level 2 charger set up at home I was charging my Lightning using exclusively DCFC, probably for 4 to 5 months or so. It reports 0% degradation when you connect to the OBD port and pull the data. Was initially a little worried that L3 only might cause some harm but so far that seems unfounded.
Before I got my level 2 charger set up at home I was charging my Lightning using exclusively DCFC, probably for 4 to 5 months or so. It reports 0% degradation when you connect to the OBD port and pull the data. Was initially a little worried that L3 only might cause some harm but so far that seems unfounded.
Same with my Polestar. I was a little worried as I was using DCFC a lot, especially during last years heat waves while travelling to SoCal, and after more than a year maybe 1 or 2 percent battery degradation. At that rate, the Polestar will easily get 300K out the current pack
Tesla reported 435,059 deliveries for the third quarter, and production of 430,488 vehicles
Tesla just reported third-quarter vehicle production and deliveries for 2023.
During the company’s second-quarter earnings call, executives warned that production would decline sequentially due to some planned factory shutdowns.
Wall Street was expecting Tesla deliveries to reach 461,640 for the period ending Sept. 30, according to a consensus of analysts polled by StreetAccount.
Here are the key numbers from the electric vehicle maker:
Total deliveries Q3 2023: 435,059
Total production Q3 2023: 430,488
During the previous quarter, Tesla reported total deliveries of 466,140 and total vehicle production of 479,700.During the same period in 2022 Tesla reported total vehicle production of 365,923 and deliveries of 343,830.
“A sequential decline in volumes was caused by planned downtimes for factory upgrades, as discussed on the most recent earnings call,” the company said. “Our 2023 volume target of around 1.8 million vehicles remains unchanged.”
Shares of Tesla were up around 1% on Monday.
On its last earnings call in July, CEO Elon Musk cautioned that Tesla would “continue to target 1.8 million vehicle deliveries this year” but expected third-quarter production to decline slightly following “summer shutdowns for a lot of factory upgrades.”
The company is still not reporting on production or delivery numbers for the Semi, a class 8 electric truck, though it delivered some to an early customer, PepsiCo, which is using the fully electric trucks for some deliveries.
Wall Street was expecting Tesla deliveries to reach 461,640 for the period ending Sept. 30, according to a consensus of analysts polled by StreetAccount. An independent Tesla researcher, who uses the handle
. That number showed Wall Street was expecting around 455,000 total deliveries, with a median estimate of 453,128 deliveries for the quarter, based on 25 analysts’ estimates.
Tesla groups its deliveries into two categories, Model S and X vehicles, and Model 3 and Y vehicles, but doesn’t report individual model or region-specific numbers. Deliveries are the closest approximation to vehicles sold reported by the company.
Tesla slashed prices throughout the third quarter on its inventory vehicles and existing models, which put pressure on competitors to follow suit.
Tesla also revealed a revamped version of its Model 3 sedan, dubbed the “Highland,” with both new exterior and interior features, and started selling it in some regions outside the U.S. The interior for the refreshed Model 3 includes touchscreen displays for rear-seat passengers and ventilated seats, among other items. The vehicle is sold with a long-range battery option that gets about 390 miles, or 629 km, per charge.
In August, Zachary Kirkhorn announced he was stepping aside as CFO, and the company said Chief Accounting Officer Vaibhav Taneja would now serve both roles. Tesla’s next earnings call will be the first with Taneja in the CFO seat
