The ML in my old LS600hL was probably the best sound system I’ve had in a car but my Model S is probably the second best. It sounds phenomenal and the bass hits hard. The only issue I have (and others have noticed too) is it’s a little forward sounding so I adjust it one notch back and to me it sounds better.

 

what year was your LS600hL? Mine is a 2008.

 

Same, 2008.

 

In both my Model Y as well as Polestar, I use "Creep mode", which will emulate a gasoline car. It still mostly uses regenerative braking to slow the car, but you have to use the brakes to hold it. When you let go of the brakes, the car will creep. Tesla has now revised their EPA ratings, and one of the changes they have made to their 2024 models is remove Creep and Hold Roll modes, they will use 'Hold' mode which Tesla says is the most efficient mode. This does not affect 2023 models.

So I decided to set my Model Y to Hold mode, and you know what? I actually like it much better. It's extremely smooth, no jerkiness at all. It works great at all speeds. I even let off fully on the freeway, and it smoothly slows down the car. Same in stop and go traffic, it brings you smoothly to a stop and holds the car. I didn't have touch the brakes even once.

Over the next week I will be monitoring energy usage to see if this actually increases range. Not that it really matters, but the curiosity in me needs to be satisfied

 

The latest OTA update includes an important one....Speed Camera detection



Speed cameras were just signed into law and became effective Jan 1st. This will hopefully give this new law the finger

 

They are a plague here I hate them.

 

They were not legal in California until this year. They will be doing a test pilot of six cities.

Interestingly enough, we have a few cities that have Red Light Cameras, but here is the Caveat:

Can California Red Light Camera Tickets Be Ignored?

If you are the driver and the registered owner of a vehicle that received a red light camera ticket in California, you may choose to ignore the citation; however, once the court date passes, the court with jurisdiction over your red light camera ticket will enter a failure to appear (FTA) for the ticket.

Even though the court records show the ticket as a failure to appear, in most cases an FTA for a red-light camera ticket will not affect your current or future driver’s license status since failures to appear on red-light camera tickets are not reported to the Department of Motor Vehicles or DMV. Furthermore, a court will not issue a warrant for a red-light camera ticket

This was most likely due to court challenges. So they rely on people paying the fines (which will go into collection if you don't pay them), and a lot cities who had them ended up pulling them. I think Speeding Cameras will get challenged as well and end up failures, the same as Red Light cameras

 

Interesting about the red light tickets. Here they have got rid of some photo radar traps, the mobile ones in an SUV. Still a few but the vehicle now had bright markings. There are still dozens of stationary ones on poles flashing away making a small fortune.

I wonder if the camera alert thing will work in my area. I know where they all are but still it's easy to forget.

 

I was in Italy a few years back, and took a taxi from the Rome airport to Civitavecchia. It was about 2 am, and I was dozing off, but noticed the driver was speeding up and then slowing down much of the way. I could not figure out why, but he told me it was due to speed cameras. He knew where the speed cameras were located, and was slowing down for them.

 

I've been monitoring over the last four days energy usage since changing from Creep mode to Hold Mode, same exact drive. Here are the results so far:

Previous energy usage: 0.284 kWh per mile
Energy usage since changing to Hold Mode: 0.267 kWh per mile

The savings so far has been about 0.018 kWh per mile, not a lot, but it's something. I'll do another measurement over 30 days just to make sure this is not a fluke. BTW, temps have been much colder, so the fact that energy usage went down is a positive sign

 

never seen someone use so many economy measurements. let's see:
mi/kwh
kw/mi
kwh/100mi
mpge (whatever the hell that is)

for me, although i can figure out the math on the first 3 i find only the first one relatable - if i want range, i multiply that # by battery size, and done.


why do you think there's a difference between creep mode vs hold mode? i assume creep mode means the car will creep forward if you take your foot off brake but hold mode won't?

 

I look at efficiency at the micro level, which is kWh's per mile. From there, just some basic math. Also, just because a battery is a certain size doesn't determine actual range. For example, the Model Y's battery pack is 81 kWh, BUT Tesla only releases something like 75 kWh. When you hit absolute ZERO, you still have 30 to 50 miles "hidden" range.

MPGe = Miles Per Gallon Equivalent. When you use 33.7 kWh, you've burned a gallon of gas.

The difference between "Creep Mode" and "Hold Mode" is that the vehicle uses more regen, so it captures back more energy. Since I've changed to Hold Mode, I haven't touched the brakes even once. Even at slower speeds like stop and go traffic, I'm using more regen then if I was creeping along

 

thanks. my issue with kwh/mi. is the numbers are so tiny that it's more challenging to compare, vs. mi/kwh.

uses more regen in which mode? hold i presume? i thought 1 pedal driving mode was something like hold? when i drove a 3 for a week i just used 1 pedal mode.

the ioniq's i-pedal (1 pedal) is kind of odd (maybe tesla does same) because it forces the car to be in awd all the time (needs the motors on to do the regen on front and back)
when not in i-pedal the car will only use the rear motor unless it needs to use the front as well.
so u can kind of have max efficiency OR 1-pedal but not both.
in real world i expect the differences are tiny.

 

I always start off with dividing the number of miles driven by kWh used, which gives you kWh per mile. Then I just do a quick calculation to figure out how many miles per kWh. I like to see all the numbers, just the nerd in me

Basically "Hold" is full One Pedal driving. Creep Mode you have to use the brake, at least before you stop and to hold it until you are ready to go. Tesla does OPD really well. It's extremely smooth for the driver and passengers. It does activate the front motor in "Hold" mode when you let off the throttle, but this is a benefit because you are getting better regen, at least in theory.

You are correct, the amount you regen is tiny, but I really like how Tesla has implemented it, so I'm going to stick with it. On the Ioniq, I usually set it one less than OPD, but next time I drive it I'll try it on Full to see how well Hyundai implemented their version

 

In Tesla, you still use 1 pedal driving in all modes. In creep you'll have to put your foot on the brake at a stop sign or stoplight. And when driving at any speed, removing your foot from the pedal on "creep" compared to "hold" will result in a less sudden deceleration of the car (therefore less regen). I strongly prefer "hold". Last time I rented a Tesla it was on "creep" - I always drive on "hold" so to me I thought it felt strange like that but Hertz had it locked down so I couldn't change the setting.