lol i know the camera doesnt have to do with the LKA. Im just saying they should have added it, seeing as how the HS will get it, and the Prius will have it too. and blind spot monitors are starting to become more common in luxury cars

 

so what can't u do nav-wise with voice commands while driving?

hafta say, i think my days of getting factory nav are done until they make it a straight-up internet 'cache' like google maps so it's ALWAYS up to date.

 

Sorry to report that there is no HDD recordable space avail.

 

Not much, really. You can enter addresses, and all the basic stuff.

I was very impressed by the remote touch. Very impressed.

Also, the NavTraffic and Weather is quite cool, as is the USB iPod interface.

 

I just had to post this picture. Not taking credit for whoever posted it first, just had to save it

I think the RX looks really good in Matador Red, as well as the other Lexus models that offer this color.

But what really stokes me is the wheel design, those are pretty hot.
Are they 19 or 20 inch diameter in the before picture?
I can tell the After is lowered with modified wheels and grill

 

maybe i just didnt get you... HS will get blind spot monitor? I dont think so...
Doesnt RX get camera parking aid for the passanger side?

 

i just watched fifthgear with xc60 that had blind spot monitor, and it was so annoying that driver turned it off - basically every time car passes you, you get HUD and sidemirrors blinking red... which on highway is all the time, and gets distracting.

their implementation of Precrash is also way way more in your face than toyota one with actually stopping your car in advance, so I would turn it off if i was to drive fast :-) same goes for LKA - theirs activates right away regardless of if you are trying to change lines yourself :-).

All that technology needs to be used correctly or it will be more of distraction than help.

 

im saying the HS and the Prius get LKA

the RX doesnt

neither of them get blind spot monitoring, but im saying that lexus should include them. not all systems are that intrusive as those found the volvos. usually all you get is a small light on the outside mirrors if there is a car next to you, and if you signal like you want to change lanes, then a sound goes off

 

I think the RX not getting the LKA is terrible. I'd rather have the LKA than the HUD

 

2010 Lexus RX first drive


Launching a new vehicle - especially a luxury vehicle - is a difficult thing to do at any time. Doing it during the worst economic downturn of the past several decades is all the more challenging. And when that ill-timed luxury vehicle happens to be a de facto member of the much-hyped but ultimately smaller-than-expected crossover segment, things are downright tough.

Which is a roundabout way of saying that while flying down to San Antonio to get a taste of the new 2010 Lexus RX 350 and 450h, I wasn’t expecting to be bowled over. Sure it's the segment-defining mid-size luxury crossover, but it’s not precisely exciting when hung against a backdrop of fuel-gulping V8s or even super-high-tech plug-in hybrids.

So color me surprised when I actually found some really interesting new features in the RX - most notably a new control interface for a new navigation and information system, called Remote Touch. This is the real highlight of the new RX, and will soon be found in other Lexus vehicles, including the all-new HS 250h.

Design and Materials
Effectively combining the functionality of a mouse and a trackball, the Remote Touch system allows comfortable and intuitive use of the relocated navigation (on equipped models) or audio/entertainment display. The move away from a touchscreen format allows the panel to be placed closer to the driver’s line of sight, which is a welcome change, while the easy-access control unit keeps the driver’s hand close to - though not on - the wheel.

The Remote Touch input device makes for a truly intuitive experience
The best feature of the new Remote Touch unit is its haptic response system. Instead of having to pay close visual attention to the buttons and on-screen items, the system recognizes these features and provides resistance through the Remote Touch unit itself, giving a tactile sense of where the cursor is on the screen. With minimal familiarization, one can then operate the system without even looking at the screen for certain routine tasks. When the Lexus Enform telematics system becomes integrated with the navigation system of the first vehicles in the second half of this year, the control interface will have even more uses and benefits, though it's not yet clear which models will get the Enform system first.

For those unwilling even to use hands to control the system, Lexus has included a speech recognition system, based around VoiceBox Technology’s Conversational Voice Search that more easily interprets casual phrases - meaning users aren’t locked into a fixed menu of verbal commands, but can speak freely, allowing the system to cue on key words. For instance, instead of saying “Weather,” and waiting for a sub-menu, you can say “What’s the weather like in Wichita Falls?” and the system will start the weather-searching process. Handy, and hands-free.

The cabin of the 2010 RX applies what Lexus calls its “L-Finesse” (not to be confused with ‘elfinesque’, though the coincidence is uncanny) design philosophy. Separating the center stack into two clear regions via sweeping curves and contrasting colors, the new theme gives a decidedly modern but not obtrusive style to the interior.

The instrument panel directly in front of the driver also gets some high-tech treatment in the form of an Organic LED (OLED) display panel beside the speedometer. In addition to being thinner and lighter than typical LED panels, OLED displays are also brighter and easier to read - a key element of a display likely to be washed out by bright sunlight. The OLED panel does an admirable job of remaining readable even in the harsh sunlight of south Texas.

Materials still feel a bit lacking in the RX, but it’s a complaint common to all Lexus vehicles. The leather is nice, but it feels overly processed and chemical-laden, rather than the luxurious and pampered feel one finds in German or Italian leather. Similarly, door panels, dashboard elements and headliners feel somewhat cheaper, emitting hollow sounds when thumped. Mercedes and BMW, though still not perfect in their implementations, have risen above this level of construction in recent models.

Fuel Economy

'L-Finesse' design language in the center stack
Perhaps the most surprising deficiency of the new RX is its fuel economy. The new vehicle uses a 3.5L V6 engine for both the 350 and 450h models, with the hybrid adding a 50hp (37kW) electric drive system to spin the rear wheels. Despite the power-boosting hybrid pack, the 350 is only 20hp behind the 450h, due to the hybrid 3.5L’s use of a modified Atkinson cycle.

Neither variant uses direct injection, however - another surprise, given the availability of the technology in similar engines throughout the Lexus lineup. Lexus officials at the event said that the efficiency and power gain simply didn’t justify the cost in this particular application. That’s an odd outcome, especially given the rather weak performance of both cars on a two-hour jaunt through the Texas hill country.

The RX 350, piloted by a trio of journalists, managed just 20-22mpg in none-too-spirited driving at constant 60-70mph speeds. The RX450h only fared marginally better, at 22-23mpg in identical conditions. The hybrid’s strength admittedly lies in city, rather than highway, driving, but even in our limited time in town, the crossover’s efficiency rating never climbed above 26mpg.

Performance
Neither vehicle is geared, in presentation or demeanor, toward vicious performance, and both live up to that reserved image. Stately comfort - check; easy driving - check; fairly quick acceleration - check; corner-hugging grip - wait, what?

A fair amount of body roll - standard fare for the segment, but outright disconcerting if your daily driver is a sports car - is to be encountered on moderately quick turns, or under sudden maneuvers. It’s not an unsafe amount of body roll, however, and once accustomed to it, it’s even a bit reassuring - you know you’re cornering by the angle of the horizon as much as by lateral g-forces.

The 275hp to 295hp (205-220kW) engines provide enough pep to make passing easy, and the smooth-shifting transmissions are good enough to prevent you from even noticing their operation, but don’t expect the RX to be your black-horse stoplight king. From a stop, the RX prefers smoothness over speed, and under braking it is stable, but never sudden.

Overall first impression
Not exactly parsimonious with fuel, but highly advanced in certain technological aspects, the RX is a vehicle that rightfully sits at the top of its segment. So far few true contenders to its position have emerged, though the BMW X3 and Mercedes-Benz GLK are arguably gathering their strength. Having experienced both the RX and the new 2010 Cadillac SRX - though not on the road with the latter, lamentably - within a 10-day period, I’d put the new Caddy crossover at the front of the list of Lexus’ true competitors. Until any challenger proves its merits to be greater than those of the RX, however, it remains the undisputed king.

http://www.motorauthority.com/2010-l...rst-drive.html

 

Ah, I forgot that new hybrids aren't all that efficient until the break in period is met. Ours averaged 24-25 MPG. Now seeing 27, 28, even 29 MPG on the dash is not uncommon.

 

Thanks Speedflex, that was one of the first reasonably straight forward reviews that I've read. Some of the others have been either a not so subtle commercial for the RX (fawning and gushing just doesn't get it for a automotive report), or impressively biased against Lexus in general. So far, I'm one of the unimpressed by the new and improved RX. Will withhold final judgment till I get a chance to see and drive one. Our next purchase, within about a year, will either be a Lexus RX to replace our 05, or possibly the new Audi Q5, which has been getting a lot of interesting write-ups

 

Both and at the same time Thanks for the info

 

I just got back fro the Lexus Inspired event for the new RX and figured that I would add my .02. I saw Mike there and am sure he will do the same shortly.

All in all I am actually completely and totally impressed by the new RX, and I have been one of the more skeptical ones on here. In person when all of the little details and pieces come together, it's quite an impressive statement.

That's just my general synopsis so if anyone has other questions feel free to ask. Overall I would say the best word to describe the RX is "intuitive". This whole car seems people oriented and reaches out to meet your every need and demand. This is the ultimate execution of "it's the little things that count" because there are tons of little things in the car that will really impress you.

 

MPLexus301, excellent review.

I take even more stock, knowing that from some of the previous conversations, you went in not wanting to like it. Bodes well that it made that good of an impression on someone that was skeptical going in.