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Old 10-14-07, 09:03 AM
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Hi guys,

Just want to get some info on how long does tires last if your running stretched? I have 275 on a 20 x 11. Front is not stretched, 245 on 20 x 9. They are falken 452's. -2.7 negative camber. Any feedback is appreciate.
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Im wondering the same and I wanted to run a 265 on the 20x11. Do you have any pics?
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I don't think having a tire stretched affects thread life or thread wear, but it does give extra stress on sidewall and bead. I have ran a 265(452s) on a 10.5 for almost 2 year and over 20k on the same tire without a sidewall blowout or bead failure. I'm running a 245 on a 10.5 now and I'll let you guys know how that goes.
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I believe its the camber that will wear your tires down, not the stretch...although there is a thread on VSC that talks about a lot of people having problems with the FK452's bubbling up. I'm running a 225/35 on a 9" wide and a 235/35 on a 10"
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Originally Posted by D-MAN63
Hi guys,

Just want to get some info on how long does tires last if your running stretched? I have 275 on a 20 x 11. Front is not stretched, 245 on 20 x 9. They are falken 452's. -2.7 negative camber. Any feedback is appreciate.

Thats not stretched for an Fk452.

These (kinds of) questions fall in line with people who want a 1000hp reliable, daily driver....thats good on gas.

If you use a product in a mannor that its not intended, then u live with the results. Good or bad.

The amount of camber will wear the corners and sidewalls down. Yes, theres a thread on VSC but most of the people are running really aggressive offsets that require lots of camber to get the rims to fit under the car.
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I'm thinking I shouldve went with a 245/35 on the rear...
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Originally Posted by V8_Aristo
I'm running a 245 on a 10.5 now and I'll let you guys know how that goes.

Thats what I call stretching! Can you post a pic?
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Originally Posted by 9520G
Thats what I call stretching! Can you post a pic?
Here you go.....

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Thanks for the pics, currently I have volk gt-c that are going on a 95 talon AWD with a -7 offset.(widebody) I have 20x10.5 not 20x11 like staed above and I have 20x9.5 for the front. Since its AWD I think I should run 245 on all four, what do you think?
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i think that it will be insane when finished!!!
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Originally Posted by 9520G
Thanks for the pics, currently I have volk gt-c that are going on a 95 talon AWD with a -7 offset.(widebody) I have 20x10.5 not 20x11 like staed above and I have 20x9.5 for the front. Since its AWD I think I should run 245 on all four, what do you think?
The shorter the sidewall the more stress it is for the tire, so a 245/30 doesnt work the same way as a 245/35. I have seen 235/35 on 20x10, but it looks so thin that it might break a bead on a really bad pothole.
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But even though I'll run the same size tire on all 4 will that still give me the same OD even thoigh the f and r are different width rims?
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Originally Posted by 9520G
But even though I'll run the same size tire on all 4 will that still give me the same OD even thoigh the f and r are different width rims?
Yes, it will have the same OD.
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Originally Posted by V8_Aristo
Yes, it will have the same OD.

Thank you sir, I really appreciatte all the help. I'll be sure to post pics when its all done!
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I just posted a personal review on another forum with my experiences with various tire brands. I will copy and paste


Brands I delt with were Toyo, Dunlop, Falken, Nankang, Hankook, Goodyear, Continental and I may be missing a couple but I will give my personal unbiased review based off of my experiences.



Toyo proxy4 tested 6 tires
225/35 on a 20x8.5 and a 245/35/ on a 20x10

They lasted a fairly decent time. Good in the rain and the stretch was a nice / shape. I would say about 8,000 miles before I got my first blow out in the rear then shortly after I got a blow out in the front. I would have to say the sidewalls are very weak since the sizes I have listed are a very conservative stretch. The front wasn't even a noticable stretch. The sidewalls just ripped like 20 inches on each blowout. I dont recomend




Goodyear (don't remember the model) tested 1 tire
245/35/19 on a 11.5' wide wheel

Lasted me about 8,000 miles. No real problems just that the tire looked really bulky when stretched. It was a rounded look. When the tire blew out, it wasnt that bad, the cut was only about 8 inches long. Pretty strong sidewall. Not bad but you can do better for the price.



Dunlop (don't remember the model) tested 4 tires in total
275/30/19 on a 12' and 245/35/19 on a 11.5

Until recently, this brand was my favorite for many reasons. The tires all lasted over 10,000 miles and only had one blow out. The rip was only like 4 inches. The other tires were replaced due to them not being able to hold the beed any longer. The stretch is rounded but not as bulky as the Goodyear was. Very strong sidewalls and durable tires. Pretty bad in the snow but most people throw their stocks wheels back on anyway. Good in the rain though. I recomend them. This is a closeup of the 275/30/19 with the barrel exposed




Continental
295/30/18 on a 18x12 and on a 18x13(same tire was reused) and 225/40/18 on a 18x9.5 and a 18x11 (same tire was used) two tires total

Nice / shaped stretch. They run alittle bigger then most brands of the same size. Not used long enough to give a real opinion. I had them on for about less then 3k miles with the smaller size rims and about only 5 miles with the larger size. No problems and they handle well in the rain. The sidewalls seem to be strong. I recomend them



Falken 452 Tested 1 tire
225/35 on a 19x11.5- wouldnt fit
235/35 on the same wheel- wouldnt fit
245/35 " " " "

only had it on for about 1 month. Had a blow out. Nice / shaped stretch but the tire was more like a 255/35 then a 245/35. Im not a fan of the tire since I have fit a 225/35 of a different brand on the same wheel. For extreme stretches, stay away but they are good for a more conservative stretch. This is a pic of a 225/35 that wouldnt fit on the 11.5 I couldnt get it to hold air



Nankang NS-ll 265/30/19 on a 19x12' wheel. tested 2 tires

This is the most extreme stretch I ever driven on. One tire only made it a few hours before blowing out. I blame it on the mounter though, he may have put too much air in the tire or may have not balanced it correctly since I was not there when it was put on. (I should of checked the pressure but didnt)
SO far im at 6,000 miles with no problem on the other tire that did not pop. Nice /shaped stretch. Tire runs true to size. Very cheap in price and has a strong sidewall (the pic says other wise but again, most likely the mounters fault since it blew out so quickly) I recomend them.





Hankook 104
235/35/19 on a 19x11.5 and a 275/30/19 on a 19x12 wheel. Tested 3 tires.
So far im at 6,000 miles on these tires with no problems. Nice / shaped stretch. they run true to size. Handle well in the rain. Priced to sell. Strong sidewall. I recomend them.




The three brands that stand out for me are Dunlop, Nankang and Hankook. They have all proven to be durable and handle well in the rain. This was a personal review, I did not test the same amount of tires for each brand nor did I test them in the same exact conditions over the same period of time. Most of the stretches I run are very very extreme even to the standards of the VIP guys in Cali. But this is the tristate and we know our roads are worse so my review might be more helpful for east coast members. IF the tire could last an extreme stretch in NYC then its a good tire IMO.

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