a 5x 112 rim onto a 5x114.3 pcd car question
10-11-10, 02:06 PM
#1
Pole Position
Thread Starter
a 5x 112 rim onto a 5x114.3 pcd car question
Ok so as the title suggest i want to find a way to fit a set of brabus wheels w pcd of 5 x 112 onto my IS which is a 5x114.3
The two options im aware of are finding an adapter/spacer thingy, but ive heard only bad things of that
or
Filling out the current holes and Redrilling.
So my questions is this. How safe is it to redrill? Can they bore it out the current bolt holes? or do they have to fill em and then redrill a new set of holes? Is this safe? or does the rim loose alot of its rigidity.
If my heart is set on these wheels, so is safer to find me a pair of replicas? or would redrilling the original wheels be good enough to never give me problems. I dont want the car to wobble either.
I know its prob easier and safer to go for rims w the correct pcd, but i LOVE these wheels and really want these wheels over anything else ive seen. I had a crush on these wheels for a while, and i think theyd suit the IS alot
The two options im aware of are finding an adapter/spacer thingy, but ive heard only bad things of that
or
Filling out the current holes and Redrilling.
So my questions is this. How safe is it to redrill? Can they bore it out the current bolt holes? or do they have to fill em and then redrill a new set of holes? Is this safe? or does the rim loose alot of its rigidity.
If my heart is set on these wheels, so is safer to find me a pair of replicas? or would redrilling the original wheels be good enough to never give me problems. I dont want the car to wobble either.
I know its prob easier and safer to go for rims w the correct pcd, but i LOVE these wheels and really want these wheels over anything else ive seen. I had a crush on these wheels for a while, and i think theyd suit the IS alot
10-11-10, 02:39 PM
#3
Pole Position
Thread Starter
But Im a bit confused? i thought apaters would be like spacers, except w the new studs of the spacer in the new pcd pattern. or something like that
and i also thought when people referred to wobble nuts they were talkin about adapters, but made the car wobble and hence the name wobble nuts
clearly im a n00b at this,
The following users liked this post:
mahtogje (07-09-20)
10-11-10, 03:41 PM
#6
Pole Position
Thread Starter
hmmm, no reputable wheels shops here, or rather none id trust anyway. What other companies, metal work shops would have the precision instruments to carry out the task of redrilling holes into my wheels?
Trending Topics
10-12-10, 07:23 AM
#8
Pole Position
Thread Starter
if i were to redrill, that would be safer than just attaching the wheels and gettings hubcentric rings and calling it a day? from what ive read lots of people have put 5x112 rims on their cars w aftermarket lugs and spignot rings and seem to be running the wheels fine no problems
10-12-10, 11:41 AM
#10
Pole Position
Thread Starter
Interesting, look at what i found out,
This is from the Harmann Achtung blog on myspace
5x112 Wheels will fit 5x114.3 applications...heres how!
Current mood: optimistic
Category: Automotive
OK...as most of you may know. Hartmann Wheels and Achtuning specialize in Volkswagen and Audi applications. Also, as some of you may know the bolt pattens on a majority of Audi/VW and Mercedes Benz vehicles have a 5x112 bolt pattern. The 5x114.3 bolt pattern is commonly found on Japanese manufactured vehicles such as Honda/Acura, Nissan/Infiniti and Toyota/Lexus. These steps will show you how to fit the 5x112 wheels to youre 5x114.3 application!!!
1. Make sure that the wheels you are fitting to your car have a center bore that is larger than the hub size on your vehicle.
2. Double check the offset of the wheels and whether the calipers on the car will not hit the back of the wheel when bolted up.
3. Purchase hub rings that will go inside the wheel and fill the gap between the wheels hub diameter and hub on the car. These can be purchased places or machined for a custom fit depending on the sizes.
4. Lastly, purchase CENTERING LUG NUTS. These lug nuts have a floating cone seat on them that will allow for the proper pressure to be put on the wheel in the correct spot because the bolt patterns are offset just a bit.
5. Lock everything down, make sure you have tires on the wheels, air in them and take it out on the town!!!
This all came about because a few employees here have a Toyota truck and Lexus...both 5x114.3 and one is running 5x112 wheels and the other will be soon! Also, this will increase the options that are available to either car community and could provide that DIFFERENT look that everybody wants for their vehicle. Keep it in mind when you are looking for wheels next. You just might not be out of luck!!!! Take care.
H_A
Read more: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...#ixzz12Afme1Ct
Current mood: optimistic
Category: Automotive
OK...as most of you may know. Hartmann Wheels and Achtuning specialize in Volkswagen and Audi applications. Also, as some of you may know the bolt pattens on a majority of Audi/VW and Mercedes Benz vehicles have a 5x112 bolt pattern. The 5x114.3 bolt pattern is commonly found on Japanese manufactured vehicles such as Honda/Acura, Nissan/Infiniti and Toyota/Lexus. These steps will show you how to fit the 5x112 wheels to youre 5x114.3 application!!!
1. Make sure that the wheels you are fitting to your car have a center bore that is larger than the hub size on your vehicle.
2. Double check the offset of the wheels and whether the calipers on the car will not hit the back of the wheel when bolted up.
3. Purchase hub rings that will go inside the wheel and fill the gap between the wheels hub diameter and hub on the car. These can be purchased places or machined for a custom fit depending on the sizes.
4. Lastly, purchase CENTERING LUG NUTS. These lug nuts have a floating cone seat on them that will allow for the proper pressure to be put on the wheel in the correct spot because the bolt patterns are offset just a bit.
5. Lock everything down, make sure you have tires on the wheels, air in them and take it out on the town!!!
This all came about because a few employees here have a Toyota truck and Lexus...both 5x114.3 and one is running 5x112 wheels and the other will be soon! Also, this will increase the options that are available to either car community and could provide that DIFFERENT look that everybody wants for their vehicle. Keep it in mind when you are looking for wheels next. You just might not be out of luck!!!! Take care.
H_A
Read more: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...#ixzz12Afme1Ct
10-12-10, 01:58 PM
#11
^ interesting.... 
I know the difference isn't huge as-is, but my impression was always 5x112 =/= 5x114.3
In the sense that us Toyota/Lexus guys can't run them, since we have studs on our cars, while Wobble bolts just give the Euro guys all the love since they can just bolt a 5x114.3 wheel up.
I've seen the wobble nuts before, but like i said, i thought the studs we're the biggest constriction.
I know the difference isn't huge as-is, but my impression was always 5x112 =/= 5x114.3
In the sense that us Toyota/Lexus guys can't run them, since we have studs on our cars, while Wobble bolts just give the Euro guys all the love since they can just bolt a 5x114.3 wheel up.
I've seen the wobble nuts before, but like i said, i thought the studs we're the biggest constriction.
10-12-10, 02:42 PM
#12
forget the costs involved and the resale value of the wheel
if i were to redrill, that would be safer than just attaching the wheels and gettings hubcentric rings and calling it a day? from what ive read lots of people have put 5x112 rims on their cars w aftermarket lugs and spignot rings and seem to be running the wheels fine no problems
if i were to redrill, that would be safer than just attaching the wheels and gettings hubcentric rings and calling it a day? from what ive read lots of people have put 5x112 rims on their cars w aftermarket lugs and spignot rings and seem to be running the wheels fine no problems
just imagine you doing this, which is generally unacceptable, especially when you are considering that you are changing the design of the vehicle dramatically, and then you go out, drive around, a wheel comes off (whether not attached right, or a failure of the hardware), and the wheel bounces a couple times before going through the windshield of an oncoming vehicle instantly killing the driver...
had it just been an install error, probably not gonna go to jail, but if it could be ruled as negligent, probably going to jail...
10-13-10, 01:21 PM
#13
All you need are some correct size hub rings and wobble lug nuts and you'll be fine. Im currently using 5x112 wheels on my ls430 without any problem.
this is where i bought my wobble lug nuts from just give them a call to see if they still carry them.
http://www.raderwerks.com/
also these people carry them too
http://www.lakeshorewheelandtire.com/store/index.php
this is where i bought my wobble lug nuts from just give them a call to see if they still carry them.
http://www.raderwerks.com/
also these people carry them too
http://www.lakeshorewheelandtire.com/store/index.php
Last edited by AznRacer; 10-13-10 at 01:34 PM.
10-14-10, 12:08 AM
#14
Pole Position
Thread Starter
All you need are some correct size hub rings and wobble lug nuts and you'll be fine. Im currently using 5x112 wheels on my ls430 without any problem.
this is where i bought my wobble lug nuts from just give them a call to see if they still carry them.
http://www.raderwerks.com/
also these people carry them too
http://www.lakeshorewheelandtire.com/store/index.php
this is where i bought my wobble lug nuts from just give them a call to see if they still carry them.
http://www.raderwerks.com/
also these people carry them too
http://www.lakeshorewheelandtire.com/store/index.php
which ones did u get? pcd variation ones?
also where did u get ur hub ring from? for benz rims dont i need 66.67 - 60.06? those are hard to finfd, might have to go custom
Last edited by ndk83; 10-14-10 at 12:13 AM.
10-15-10, 07:29 AM
#15
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Last edited by AznRacer; 10-15-10 at 08:45 AM.