20x10 wheel + 295 rear tire= will it fit on the GS?
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20x10 wheel + 295 rear tire= will it fit on the GS? *UPDATE JUNE 14th, they fit!!*
I have a post in the tire section but I don't think its getting enough GS owner exposure, and its more of a tire comparison this is more of a fitment question.
I'm looking at trying to fit Toyo Proxes 4 - 295/30ZR20 in the rear.
Now will the 295 fit with the 20x10 +43 offset, 1.5" lowered in the rear on the GS430.... I have researched other posts that say a 295 will fit on a 10" rim, Toyo says the 295 will fit on a 10 rim as well.
If it wont fit, how much modifications will it take to fit?
I'm looking at trying to fit Toyo Proxes 4 - 295/30ZR20 in the rear.
Now will the 295 fit with the 20x10 +43 offset, 1.5" lowered in the rear on the GS430.... I have researched other posts that say a 295 will fit on a 10" rim, Toyo says the 295 will fit on a 10 rim as well.
If it wont fit, how much modifications will it take to fit?
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05-24-06, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tmf2004
Check with tturbopimp..I think he's running the 295 with 10'' wide wheel... 
Others still feel free to give information.
Originally Posted by 17gs400
295 would fit on 10 perfect, because i had them on my racing hart 10.5 wide
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05-24-06, 05:36 PM
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I'll preface my response by stating that I like aggressive offsets and wide tires.
Wheels & tires are a key component of making a car look great. But extreme fitments require vehicle modifications... those killer looks come with a price.
That being said, I think you're asking for trouble with this set-up unless you are willing to do some modifications. I know that a 20x10 +43 with most 285/30-20s works fine... however, some tires run wide (the Michelins and the new Dunlop tire) and might touch the fender depending on camber & alignment settings.
The 295/30-20 is even wider (almost 1/2") not to mention taller than the 285/30-20. Given the same 20x10 +43 wheel, the 295/30-20 will 'bulge' over the rims of the wheel. The 295 really fits a 10.5" or 11" rim better, whereas the sidewalls will sit more 'straight up' from the rim flanges on these widths. Best case scanario, you'll have to remove the black rear arch guards (this will gain about 1/8" additional clearance), worst case scenario you'll have to shave the fenders about 1/4" and add negative camber.
Conincidentally, I just received the Proxes 4s in 255/35-20 + 295/30-20 that I ordered for my brother's first-gen GS. He already has 20x10.5 +40 (his are actually 8mm more aggressive than your 20x10 +43) and his rear fenders are rolled, so I am not worried about the fitment on his car.
I can say the tires look w-i-d-e.... probably wouldn't look the best on a 20x10 anyway, but that's personal preference.
Unless you're willing to do a few modifications, I think you're asking for headaches.
Wheels & tires are a key component of making a car look great. But extreme fitments require vehicle modifications... those killer looks come with a price.
That being said, I think you're asking for trouble with this set-up unless you are willing to do some modifications. I know that a 20x10 +43 with most 285/30-20s works fine... however, some tires run wide (the Michelins and the new Dunlop tire) and might touch the fender depending on camber & alignment settings.
The 295/30-20 is even wider (almost 1/2") not to mention taller than the 285/30-20. Given the same 20x10 +43 wheel, the 295/30-20 will 'bulge' over the rims of the wheel. The 295 really fits a 10.5" or 11" rim better, whereas the sidewalls will sit more 'straight up' from the rim flanges on these widths. Best case scanario, you'll have to remove the black rear arch guards (this will gain about 1/8" additional clearance), worst case scenario you'll have to shave the fenders about 1/4" and add negative camber.
Conincidentally, I just received the Proxes 4s in 255/35-20 + 295/30-20 that I ordered for my brother's first-gen GS. He already has 20x10.5 +40 (his are actually 8mm more aggressive than your 20x10 +43) and his rear fenders are rolled, so I am not worried about the fitment on his car.
I can say the tires look w-i-d-e.... probably wouldn't look the best on a 20x10 anyway, but that's personal preference.
Unless you're willing to do a few modifications, I think you're asking for headaches.
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Originally Posted by SoCalSC4
I'll preface my response by stating that I like aggressive offsets and wide tires.
Wheels & tires are a key component of making a car look great. But extreme fitments require vehicle modifications... those killer looks come with a price.
That being said, I think you're asking for trouble with this set-up unless you are willing to do some modifications. I know that a 20x10 +43 with most 285/30-20s works fine... however, some tires run wide (the Michelins and the new Dunlop tire) and might touch the fender depending on camber & alignment settings.
The 295/30-20 is even wider (almost 1/2") not to mention taller than the 285/30-20. Given the same 20x10 +43 wheel, the 295/30-20 will 'bulge' over the rims of the wheel. The 295 really fits a 10.5" or 11" rim better, whereas the sidewalls will sit more 'straight up' from the rim flanges on these widths. Best case scanario, you'll have to remove the black rear arch guards (this will gain about 1/8" additional clearance), worst case scenario you'll have to shave the fenders about 1/4" and add negative camber.
Conincidentally, I just received the Proxes 4s in 255/35-20 + 295/30-20 that I ordered for my brother's first-gen GS. He already has 20x10.5 +40 (his are actually 8mm more aggressive than your 20x10 +43) and his rear fenders are rolled, so I am not worried about the fitment on his car.
I can say the tires look w-i-d-e.... probably wouldn't look the best on a 20x10 anyway, but that's personal preference.
Unless you're willing to do a few modifications, I think you're asking for headaches.
Wheels & tires are a key component of making a car look great. But extreme fitments require vehicle modifications... those killer looks come with a price.
That being said, I think you're asking for trouble with this set-up unless you are willing to do some modifications. I know that a 20x10 +43 with most 285/30-20s works fine... however, some tires run wide (the Michelins and the new Dunlop tire) and might touch the fender depending on camber & alignment settings.
The 295/30-20 is even wider (almost 1/2") not to mention taller than the 285/30-20. Given the same 20x10 +43 wheel, the 295/30-20 will 'bulge' over the rims of the wheel. The 295 really fits a 10.5" or 11" rim better, whereas the sidewalls will sit more 'straight up' from the rim flanges on these widths. Best case scanario, you'll have to remove the black rear arch guards (this will gain about 1/8" additional clearance), worst case scenario you'll have to shave the fenders about 1/4" and add negative camber.
Conincidentally, I just received the Proxes 4s in 255/35-20 + 295/30-20 that I ordered for my brother's first-gen GS. He already has 20x10.5 +40 (his are actually 8mm more aggressive than your 20x10 +43) and his rear fenders are rolled, so I am not worried about the fitment on his car.
I can say the tires look w-i-d-e.... probably wouldn't look the best on a 20x10 anyway, but that's personal preference.
Unless you're willing to do a few modifications, I think you're asking for headaches.
A few questions SoCalSC4. It wont be that much taller would it? the bulge shoud make it pretty close? And now u have seen the proxes 4 in person, how do the sidewalls look to you as far as easier for my situation or worse? I could always run a higher or lower tire pressure depending on best fitment (within tire spec of course).
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A 295 tire will fit a 10 inch rim, but the added width combined with the taller diameter will create problems IMO without fender mods. A 295/30 20 tire will be close to 1.5 inches taller than stock size depending on brand.
I know that Glen (RMMGS4) is running a 305 tire, but in a 25 series aspect ratio on custom 11 inch rims.
Michelin has a 295/25 20 tire that would be only slightly taller than stock while still giving you the added width and should work OK on a 10 inch rim.
I know that Glen (RMMGS4) is running a 305 tire, but in a 25 series aspect ratio on custom 11 inch rims.
Michelin has a 295/25 20 tire that would be only slightly taller than stock while still giving you the added width and should work OK on a 10 inch rim.
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05-24-06, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalSC4
Given the same 20x10 +43 wheel, the 295/30-20 will 'bulge' over the rims of the wheel. The 295 really fits a 10.5" or 11" rim better, whereas the sidewalls will sit more 'straight up' from the rim flanges on these widths.
05-24-06, 06:28 PM
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A 295 tire will fit a 10 inch rim, but the added width combined with the taller diameter will create problems IMO without fender mods. A 295/30 20 tire will be close to 1.5 inches taller than stock size depending on brand.
I know that Glen (RMMGS4) is running a 305 tire, but in a 25 series aspect ratio on custom 11 inch rims.
Michelin has a 295/25 20 tire that would be only slightly taller than stock while still giving you the added width and should work OK on a 10 inch rim.
I know that Glen (RMMGS4) is running a 305 tire, but in a 25 series aspect ratio on custom 11 inch rims.
Michelin has a 295/25 20 tire that would be only slightly taller than stock while still giving you the added width and should work OK on a 10 inch rim.
I have a 20 x 11 rim and a 295/25-20 tire. LIp's are shaved ALL THE WAY off which gives more clearance than rolling fenders. I still have room to spare and no increased camber required to clear and absolutely no rubbing at any ride height.
I too think a 295 on a 10" won't look that good, since it is the inverse of a stretched look and will overhang the rim to some extent, depending on the brand tire.
Also a 30series tire is much taller and will have much greater chances to rub than my set up.
The 295/25 is actually still very close to stock diameter, so clearance is a lot better.
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It's not that I want 295 on purpose, I really only want 285's but I can get a set of proxes w/295's really cheap, and proxes have better user ratings than the T1R's by a considerable amount on the internet.
These are my options.
Toyo TR-1's 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1472.00 CAD
Falken FK-452's 245/35/20, and Falken GRB FK-451 285/30/20=1228.00 CAD
Hankook Ventus Sport K104 - 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1339.00 CAD (I think it may be worth spending the little extra on the TR-1s over these.)
Toyo Proxes 4 - 245/35/20, 295/30ZR20=1160 CAD.
Maybe when Socal answers my last set of questions I will be able to decide. If he answers a certain way I may be adventurous and experiment for the lexus community.
These are my options.
Toyo TR-1's 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1472.00 CAD
Falken FK-452's 245/35/20, and Falken GRB FK-451 285/30/20=1228.00 CAD
Hankook Ventus Sport K104 - 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1339.00 CAD (I think it may be worth spending the little extra on the TR-1s over these.)
Toyo Proxes 4 - 245/35/20, 295/30ZR20=1160 CAD.
Maybe when Socal answers my last set of questions I will be able to decide. If he answers a certain way I may be adventurous and experiment for the lexus community.
05-25-06, 01:02 AM
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It's not that I want 295 on purpose, I really only want 285's but I can get a set of proxes w/295's really cheap, and proxes have better user ratings than the T1R's by a considerable amount on the internet.
These are my options.
Toyo TR-1's 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1472.00 CAD
Falken FK-452's 245/35/20, and Falken GRB FK-451 285/30/20=1228.00 CAD
Hankook Ventus Sport K104 - 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1339.00 CAD (I think it may be worth spending the little extra on the TR-1s over these.)
Toyo Proxes 4 - 245/35/20, 295/30ZR20=1160 CAD.
Maybe when Socal answers my last set of questions I will be able to decide. If he answers a certain way I may be adventurous and experiment for the lexus community.
These are my options.
Toyo TR-1's 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1472.00 CAD
Falken FK-452's 245/35/20, and Falken GRB FK-451 285/30/20=1228.00 CAD
Hankook Ventus Sport K104 - 245/35/20, 285/30/20=1339.00 CAD (I think it may be worth spending the little extra on the TR-1s over these.)
Toyo Proxes 4 - 245/35/20, 295/30ZR20=1160 CAD.
Maybe when Socal answers my last set of questions I will be able to decide. If he answers a certain way I may be adventurous and experiment for the lexus community.
You are probably the first one (on record) to consider these combinations. That said, when you get this close to the fender lip, the tire brand really makes the difference on the clearance you will have. We can't even speak just size only. As Bob said, the profile (as in shape) of the tire sidewall and the actual "measured tread width are different from brand to brand and model to model. These two measurement / contour specifications ARE NOT standardized and or consistent when the standard size dimensions "295/30-20" are given..
Good Luck and hope Bob has better product knowledg with the tire's you mentioned.
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Originally Posted by RMMGS4
You are probably the first one (on record) to consider these combinations. That said, when you get this close to the fender lip, the tire brand really makes the difference on the clearance you will have. We can't even speak just size only. As Bob said, the profile (as in shape) of the tire sidewall and the actual "measured tread width are different from brand to brand and model to model. These two measurement / contour specifications ARE NOT standardized and or consistent when the standard size dimensions "295/30-20" are given..
Good Luck and hope Bob has better product knowledg with the tire's you mentioned.
Good Luck and hope Bob has better product knowledg with the tire's you mentioned.
Proxes 4: Tire Size-295/30ZR20 --
LI-101W
SW-BW
UTQG-300AAA
1/32"-11
O.D.-26.9
SEC-11.7 (Overall width from the largest points)
SLR-12.7
RV-479
Rim Widths 10.5 -10.0-11.0
Toyo TR-1's Tire Size-285/30ZR20 --
LI-99Y
SW-BW
UTQG-280AA A
1/32"-10
O.D.-26.8
SEC- 11.4
SLR-12.6
RV- 482
Rim Widths 10 9.5-10.5
OK I called Toyo. So the O.D. is almost the same 0.1 more on the 295, and the overall width is almost the same, 2.5 of an 8th inch larger on the 295. I think at most Im looking a 1/4" difference on both sides of the widths. Toyo said there wouldnt be much difference from the 295 on a 10" wheel over the 10.5" wheel.
I know I will have to shave but I think it will work out.
05-25-06, 08:41 AM
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the overall diameter wouldn't really be of my concern, seriously. the width is. you can probably fit 295 on the 10, i don't see problem, but it's on the wide side and with the offset you have, more than likely you will need to shave the fender, which again isn't major but that's just things to keep in mind
bottom line, like i mention in your other thread, i would do 285
bottom line, like i mention in your other thread, i would do 285