bluelex

Does anyone have these in 285/30/20 on a 10 wide rim so I can see how they look? or a 235/30/20 on a 8.5? Is this design fatter sidewall wise than the original t1-s's were.?

Neo

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I'd be interested as well. For a long time, I had to rule out the T1-r because Toyo did not make 285/30/20. I checked recently and this size has been added to the specs. Since it is relatively new, I am not sure anyone has gotten this size yet.

bluelex

Right they just added a bunch of new tires sizes. I just noticed that they did make a 275/30/20 and a 285/30/20. But I heard from D2 that these new t1r's were a fatter side wall design than the orignal t1s's so I'm worried a bit. So maybe a 275/30/20 will be the safer bet and match up nicer with the 235/30/20 I want in the front.

bluelex

tough choices they have 245/30/20 with 285/30/20 and my alltime fav which i have always wanted 235/30/20 with 275/30/20 on 8.5/10 combo I mean.

Neo

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You want to run wheels that are about 1" different in diameter? (235/30/20 = 25.6", 275/30/20 = 26.5")

bluelex

you know me, out the door with specs, I'm no pro driver on the circut. Its gotta be about how they look and curve to the rim, 30 series front and back is a must have for me.

Neo

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Well, in this case, I am still talking about looks. Your rear sidewalls will be taller than the front (2.8" and 3.2"). I know it may not be much but you will notice more rubber in the back tires.

rominl

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yeah imho i would just do 235/30/20 and 275/25/20. i mean, you used to talk about how different it looks between 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 is, if you do 235/30 and 275/30, that's going to be even more off?

anyway, i know you have very tight offset there. i think it's safer if you do 275 still. 285 is fat for 10 to begin with, and i also heard that the t1r are fatter than t1s

SoCalSC4

I've seen a few sets of the T1-Rs. I installed 225/35-18s on a friend's Mini Cooper S on 18x7.5" wheels. Very nice fit. I would personally prefer 18x8 with the 225/35-18, but they were not available in the wheel he wanted...

I've also seen the 255/35-19 on 19x8.5. This is a surprisingly nice fit. Again a 19x9 would have been "ideal," but on a 19x8.5" wheel you get a little rim protection from the tire sidewall.

I used 215/35-18 on 18x8 and 235/30-18 on 18x9 (T1-R) on my '85 MR2... looks crazy. These have a moderate stretch front & rear, exactly what I was hoping for to keep those monsters (mostly) under the stock fenders.

I just picked-up a set of the new Toyo PX4... they have a few neat new sizes including 255/30-20 + 295/25-20 (just installed a set of these on 20x9 + 20x10.5 on our CLS 500, the tires square-up perfectly). I'll be using these same tires on wider (20x9.5 + 20x11.0) wheels for a small stretch.
The PX4s are also available in 295/30-20, and interesting size (but no 245/35-20 or 255/35-20 PX4 to match it, only 255/30-20) and 265/30-22 + 305/25-22 for the BMW 7-series and 300c.

I'd say overall the T1-R (or any Toyo, for that matter) does not run wide like a Michelin or Dunlop tire. The fit on wheels similar to the Pirelli Rosso tire (if that's any help). On the other hand, the T1-Rs are wider than the old Falken FK-451s...

The 285/30-20 will square-up well on the 20x10. If you want a tiny bit of sidewall stretch, or are concerned about fender clearance, definitely use 275/30-20.

What are you up to Adrian? New wheels, too?

bluelex

hmm, you answered one question I was longing for if the new toyo's are fatter than the last ones. You think a 235/30/20 - 275/30/20 wouldn't match up on a 8.5/10? I understand eveyones concerns with specs and diameter but I have had 4 different sets of tires in my recent years and specs are one thing but tire company are another. What I mean by this is some companies are just fatter in the same size tire than others? So I'm looking for the perfect size that will be skinny sidewall and at least 30 series match front and back. Its really not clearance issues with me. I have +36 offset front and back now. I pretty sure I have enough room to fit a 285 but I've never been a fan of that look but that was looking at mich and pirelli but than my buddy Al has 285/30/20 on his bridgestones and they looked much better, not that fat but with meat. I was looking in the gallery at gs3--rich's car and he has the new toyo t1-r's in 275/30/20 and they look nice hugging the 10 wide real nice, so I'm looking for the the right skinng front match.

You guys think 245/30/20 would match up better with the 275/30/20?

what about 245/30/20 - 285/25/20
or 245/30/20 - 285/30/20

bluelex

Thanx for the feedback Bob. Have you seen the new falken 452's in person yet? They have some nice sizes coming for this year aswell, with a 235/30/20,245/30/20, 275/30/20,285/30/20,225/30/20,255/30/20, 285/25/20, and 305/25/20. I'm trying to find that perfect world between thin sidewalls and ultra low profile without going crazy strecth, mild stretch is cool with me but like said in an ealrier post a 225/35/20 might not stretch the same from one brand of tire to the next on teh same 8.5 rim because not all brands are the same.

Any help as always is appreciated from you guys .

Keeping my wheels. Just looking for new tires from one of these 2 companies to see which is better for me. Reason is that both are sponsor options. So I'm trying to find the best fit.

rominl

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adrian, actaully i would only choose from two setup, 245/35/20 and 285/30/20, or 235/35/20 and 275/30/20 (or you can lower the aspect ratio, by front and back being 5 apart). i understand and agree that between different brand and model the tires could be very different in terms of shape, sidewall, etc... however if you are talking about the same brand AND model, i think they are all very similar in terms of design and shape.

so i am thinking if you get t1r and then 245/30/20 front and 275/30/20, the rear widewall would look quite a bit "thicker" than the front. we are talking about 0.71" difference. if you could notice the difference between 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 (which is ONLY 0.26"), then i think this would be "worse" in the other way?

lexforlife

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blue

word of advice , i had the toyo t1r and i did not like them , they did not wear in correctly , could not hold traction with our bbk setup (the abs always locked ) and the were very slippery around corners

i sold them recetntly and went back to the so3 for i talked with a bridgestone engineer and they informed me that as of mid last year they did something to the design of so3 to take care of the excessive noise they used to give off when the were wearing in

SoCalSC4

I'm really liking the ultra-low profile look on these cars.I've run the 1" over-spec 255/35-20 & 285/30-20 set-up for several years and I am ready for a change. I can get the car lower with shorter tires... also, the gearing will be closer to stock, so the car will be a little quicker stoplight to stoplight.

Since I don't commute in the car anymore, ride quality and pothole protection aren't as important to me as they once were... I'm more interested in the aesthetics and gearing.

Adrian, I've spoken to Nick over at Falken quite a bit about the FK-452 (we're old friends from 'back in the day,' I built his MR2 wheels for him). I have seen the FK-452 in person and it's a great looking tire. It does not appear to be overly wide...
Nick basically summed it up by saying that the old FK-451 had the appearance of being more stretched than it really was due to the large gap between the wheel bead and the tire's rim protector band. If you look at the 255/35-20 FK-451s I have on my 20x9.5" front wheels, they appear a little stretched because you can "see" the chrome bead at the edge of the wheel; it's more exposed because the FK-451's bead protector is about 3/8" away (outside) of the edge of the rim. Am I making any sense here?
The FK-452 is dimensionally very similar to the old FK-451, but the 451 appears to stretch more because the new tire has the bead protector right next to the rim flange area... you really can't "see" the rim because there is virtually no gap between the tire and the rim. In other words, the 452 sidewall looks more "normal."

Your wheels are 20x8.5 + 20x10? I know you like the short sidewall look, too, and your car isn't exactly a daily beater... If I was going Falken , I'd go with 245/30-20 + 285/25-20. These will both 'square-up' nicely on your wheels. If you go 235/30-20 on the front, it will look a tiny bit narrower on the 20x8.5 than the 285 looks on the 10"- this will look okay, but it will look slightly different than the 285/25-20 does on the rear.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the taller rear tire look on the GS (I hate the way the G35 Coupes look with that buffalo tire on the back), so I'd keep the diameters close to each other.
Option 2 on the FK-452 would be 245/35-20 + 275/30-20; these will have a very similar appearance to each other once they are mounted on your 9s & 10s.

My only frustration with Falken right now is the FK-452 20" availability is limited. I plan to run the 255/30-20 + 305/25-20 FK-452s when they arrive. Since my car is getting closer to being finished, I went ahead and picked-up the Toyo 255/30-20 + 295/25-20s as a back-up tire solution.

On the Toyos, the 245/35-20 & 285/30-20 T-1R will (similar to the FK-452s) "sit" relatively the same (front to back) on your 20x8.5 + 20x10s. I believe the 275's sidewalls will sit a bit differently than the 245/35-20; the 275 might stretch just a tiny amount, not really noticeable.

The 255/30-20 & 295/25-20 Proxes 4s would have the neat 'short sidewall" look you & I both like, but I don't think you'd be that happy with how the 295 looks on a 10" wide wheel... it looks perfect on a 10.5" wheel, really. For this to match, you'd need 20x9 with 20x10.5 or 20x9.5 with 20x11 so the sidewalls all sit the same.

So far, the post above is the only negative thing I've ever heard about the T1-Rs. I've hammered my buddies Cooper S (with full suspension and John Cooper Works package) and was VERY impressed with the T1-R. They are quiet on the road and very predictable... TONS more grip than the OE 17" run-flat tires had. In fact, I drove the car hard enough to overheat and fade the brakes... the front pads (which are EBC "green" pads) were actually smoking after four hard stops (I was racing an EVO VIII). Other than the brakes fading, the car stopped straight and the Toyos never comlained. (time to order the StopTech BBK for the MIni!)

You know, you could ask Johhny (TLW) about the FK-452s... I know he just put a set on his ride.

-Bob

Neo

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Bob and Henry gave some good sizes to go with. With the available tires, you can go 1" over spec as many do or you can now even go almost OEM spec. With the latter option, you will have the thinner sidewalls that you want, as long as you are OK with the ride degradation.

I am not sure why you are hung up on having 30 series tires. Remember that the number is a ratio. It is a percentage of the width so a 30 series tire with 245 width will have a different sidewall size than a 30 series tire with 285 width.

Congrats on the potential sponsorship. You show your car so much it is a no brainer to go get these sponsorships.