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#4
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76ft/lbs is pretty light. I remember my Honda is recommended at 75 or 80. But I went 85 because I didn't feel comfortable with only 75 or 80ft/lbs.
For the GS, I went 85ft/lbs as well (much better than when dealerships/tire shops tighten them to 150ft/lbs with their air guns).
For the GS, I went 85ft/lbs as well (much better than when dealerships/tire shops tighten them to 150ft/lbs with their air guns).
#6
Lexus Test Driver
How about those guys in the tire shops? They use their impact wrench and get it to over 150ft/lbs sometimes.
I have a freaking hard time getting the lugs loose after they tighten it.
When I go, I always tell them to keep them loose. Even then, it's still over 100ft/lbs.
For some reason, I'm afraid that if I only torque them to 75ft/lbs, the lugs may come loose and my wheel will fall off
I have a freaking hard time getting the lugs loose after they tighten it.
When I go, I always tell them to keep them loose. Even then, it's still over 100ft/lbs.
For some reason, I'm afraid that if I only torque them to 75ft/lbs, the lugs may come loose and my wheel will fall off
Last edited by Cadd; 12-12-04 at 03:28 PM.
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#8
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Originally posted by Cadd
How about those guys in the tire shops? They use their impact wrench and get it to over 150ft/lbs sometimes.
I have a freaking hard time getting the lugs loose after they tighten it.
When I go, I always tell them to keep them loose. Even then, it's still over 100ft/lbs.
For some reason, I'm afraid that if I only torque them to 75ft/lbs, the lugs may come loose and my wheel will fall off
How about those guys in the tire shops? They use their impact wrench and get it to over 150ft/lbs sometimes.
I have a freaking hard time getting the lugs loose after they tighten it.
When I go, I always tell them to keep them loose. Even then, it's still over 100ft/lbs.
For some reason, I'm afraid that if I only torque them to 75ft/lbs, the lugs may come loose and my wheel will fall off
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#9
Lexus Test Driver
The reason I know that it's above 100ft/lbs is because I have a torque wrench that measures up to 120ft/lbs. And even when I set it at 120ft/lbs, I wasn't able to take the lugs off.
What I do is usually use the "cross" wrench (from the 80s) with a nice 12" pipe as an extention.
I also have a 12" pipe that I can slip on over the OEM wrench to give me around 18" overall. Now, If I weigh 100lbs and use an 18" overall length wrench, I should be able to exert 150ft/lbs (100 x 1.5) on the lug nuts if I were to stand on that wrench. Now, I know I can squat more than 100lbs, so I know I was able to put a minimun 150ft/lbs on the lugs, and I was still having a tough time loosening them.
I never really had the dealership take off my wheels before, so I can't say that they don't use torque wrenches.......but I know people who had work done (brakes, tire rotation, etc.) that requires the dealership to remove and retorque their wheels, and they all say that the dealership seems to always overtorque the lugnuts.
Lexforlife, I guess you're right.....if the manual says 75ft/lbs, I guess that's what I should be torquing them to. Like you said, I too, read that over torquing your lugnuts can lead to rotors warping. But I bet more than 50% of cars on the road have overtorqued lugnuts.
I think a bigger concern is UNEVEN lugnut tightness. I bet rotors warpage is more likely to happen if you have one lugnut at 60ft/lbs and another one at 160ft/lbs. (I think I read that somewhere too.)
What I do is usually use the "cross" wrench (from the 80s) with a nice 12" pipe as an extention.
I also have a 12" pipe that I can slip on over the OEM wrench to give me around 18" overall. Now, If I weigh 100lbs and use an 18" overall length wrench, I should be able to exert 150ft/lbs (100 x 1.5) on the lug nuts if I were to stand on that wrench. Now, I know I can squat more than 100lbs, so I know I was able to put a minimun 150ft/lbs on the lugs, and I was still having a tough time loosening them.
I never really had the dealership take off my wheels before, so I can't say that they don't use torque wrenches.......but I know people who had work done (brakes, tire rotation, etc.) that requires the dealership to remove and retorque their wheels, and they all say that the dealership seems to always overtorque the lugnuts.
Lexforlife, I guess you're right.....if the manual says 75ft/lbs, I guess that's what I should be torquing them to. Like you said, I too, read that over torquing your lugnuts can lead to rotors warping. But I bet more than 50% of cars on the road have overtorqued lugnuts.
I think a bigger concern is UNEVEN lugnut tightness. I bet rotors warpage is more likely to happen if you have one lugnut at 60ft/lbs and another one at 160ft/lbs. (I think I read that somewhere too.)
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i would probably go to 80lb
what i (and also rmmgs4) found out was that on the stock wheels, you have like around 11 turns on the lug nuts before it tightens up, with that much treads, of course 76lb is good. however with most aftermarket wheels, you dot' hvae that many turns, sometimes it's down to around 3. if that's the case, i think a bit more tq is a good call
what i (and also rmmgs4) found out was that on the stock wheels, you have like around 11 turns on the lug nuts before it tightens up, with that much treads, of course 76lb is good. however with most aftermarket wheels, you dot' hvae that many turns, sometimes it's down to around 3. if that's the case, i think a bit more tq is a good call
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