Originally Posted by OneTonVIP

The only REAL use of the hubcentric ring is to accomodate for people-and mostly shops- that rush their wheel installs, and don't take the proper torquing procedures of bolting down the lug nuts in a cross pattern, and in steps. When you just tighten the lug nuts one at a time, in a non-cross pattern, you essentially tighten the wheels on unevenly, and the wheels end up going on a little off-center. Hubcentric rings prevent this from happening by centering the wheels before you even tighten the lug nuts... but they are not really necessary. People have been having no problems for decades before the advent of the hubentric rings... and usually, when you're running an expensive aftermarket wheel, you already should be torquing down the wheels correctly anyway. So whether you run with or w/o rings, just make sure you torque your lug nuts in a cross pattern, and in several steps before the final torque down (doing this assures the conical section of the lug nuts do the job of centering the wheel), and you will be safe. Oh yah, and you will also want to torque the wheels in the air. Once you let it sit on the ground and place weight on the wheels, they will shift slightly...

Originally Posted by rominl

man people who can afford wheels like this i can't believe they dont' spend the extra money

Originally Posted by chuckb

that's what I'm thinking. isn't it only an extra $50 or so?

Originally Posted by pvo

Derrick mentioned it's $190 per set.

Originally Posted by rominl

although personally i don't think it makes sense to pay the extra when y ou are already getting custom wheels, but 190 / 4000, which is less than 5% of the price of the wheels, i would just do it

Originally Posted by tonydt1g3r

when you guys mention a little vibration problem what does it feel like? is it a constant vibration that increases with speed or just a small vibration at a certain speed?