View Poll Results: 48÷2(9+3)=?

288


41 
45.56% 
2


49 
54.44% 
48÷2(9+3)=???


040711, 11:32 PM

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I don't understand why "order of operation" questions turn into such heated controversies over the internet. The answer is unambiguously 288.
4^2 is unambiguously 16 for similar reasons. the "" implies "1" which is multiplied to "4^2." People often incorrectly read the statement as "negative four squared" when it should be read as "the negative of four squared."
Negative four squared = (4)^2 = 16
The negative of four squared = 4^2 = 16
.999~ where the "9" is repeating is exactly equal to 1. It's not approximately 1. It's not 1 "if you round up." It's exactly and unambiguously equal to 1.
Here's a far more interesting mathematical problem to ponder 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertran..._(probability)



040711, 11:36 PM

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this is enough to convince me that i just got an "F"



040711, 11:37 PM

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people getting it confused with 48+2(9+3)
that division sign is throwing people off, thinking it separates an equation like a plus sign.
glad i don't ever have to deal with this stupid syntax. I also got it wrong.
I got an 800 math SAT, but i'm no longer smarter than a 5th grader.



040711, 11:43 PM

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There's no shame in getting in wrong. The statement is written awkwardly and therefore forces you to carefully follow the order of operations protocol to arrive at the correct answer. At first glance, most people solve problems like this through pattern recognition instead of meticulously going through the order of operations protocol. It's perfectly understandable for people to answer "2" at first glance.
I engaged in so many of these trivial "order of operations" debates as a kid that I forced myself to meticulously apply "P E M/D A/S" before I answered.



040711, 11:49 PM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by syzygy
I don't understand why "order of operation" questions turn into such heated controversies over the internet. The answer is unambiguously 288.
4^2 is unambiguously 16 for similar reasons. the "" implies "1" which is multiplied to "4^2." People often incorrectly read the statement as "negative four squared" when it should be read as "the negative of four squared."
Negative four squared = (4)^2 = 16
The negative of four squared = 4^2 = 16
.999~ where the "9" is repeating is exactly equal to 1. It's not approximately 1. It's not 1 "if you round up." It's exactly and unambiguously equal to 1.
Here's a far more interesting mathematical problem to ponder 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertran..._(probability)

don't forget to vote in the poll



040811, 12:00 AM

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If you look at the "input" here its different. Now its a fraction "48/2" multiplied by (9+3).



040811, 12:40 AM

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KillaIS250
If you look at the "input" here its different. Now its a fraction "48/2" multiplied by (9+3).
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/FDcxk.png[IMG]

Yeah, that's the same thing as 48÷2(9+3)
If it was 48÷[2(9+3)], then the answer would be 2, but it's not.



040811, 01:03 AM

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Come on guys, I am horrible at math and got 288.



040811, 01:11 AM

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problem with this is that it's intentionally written like a brain teaser. People who once learned PEMDAS, and then mixed it up, are likely to get this wrong.
People who never gave a crap about math are likely to just read it from left to right.
did it ever hurt to write in some extra parentheses?
(48/2)(9+3).
There. keep it simple stupid. no thinking. no need to recall 6th grade math. no internet arguments. now, everyone should get the answer.
i'm glad that in practical everyday applications, we don't deal with 48/2(9+3).
Last edited by dunnojack; 040811 at 01:14 AM.



040811, 01:54 AM

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PEMDAS... glad I still remember something.



040811, 05:05 AM

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48÷2 (9+3)
2(9+3)=12
48/12=4
awwwwwwwww yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
No seriously, the answer is 2.
48÷2 (9+3)
9+3 = 12
12 * 2 = 24
48 / 24 = 2
Really you guys?



040811, 05:21 AM

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I remember PEMDAS by the following:
Please
Excuse
My
Dear
Aunt
Sally



040811, 05:29 AM

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I remember PEMDAS by the following:
Please
Excuse
My
Dear
Aunt
Sally

That's what I was taught, I'm getting 2.



040811, 06:06 AM

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if you dont believe us just type the equation into any graphing calculator. They are designed to perform this PEMDAS method
The answer is 2



040811, 06:38 AM

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my answer is 2 as well. but i can see how the answer can be 288. but is 288 really the answer?



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