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Old 09-23-08, 03:36 PM   #1
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - T-Mobile has rolled out Google's answer to the iPhone as the Web search giant makes its biggest stab yet at leaping from consumers' computers into their pockets with a device cheaper than rival Apple offers.

The G1 phone, introduced on Tuesday made by HTC Corp (2498.TW: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), has a touch-sensitive screen, a computer-like keyboard, Wi-Fi connections and uses Google's new Android operating system.
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Not exactly going to give Apple a run for it's money but it seems like a fairly competent phone. I don't like the way the zoom works though, seems kind of annoying. But I do like having the QWERTY keyboard
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From some of the stuff I heard about the G1, that is going to kill it from a lot of potential buyers
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Like what? The newer HTC touchphones are getting pretty good reviews
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Like what? The newer HTC touchphones are getting pretty good reviews
For the G1 with T-Mobile, they are limiting to 1gig of data per month, if you exceed that they will start to reduce your speeds to 50kbs or less, or they would terminate it if they feel you use to much of the network

The lack of a 3.5mm headphone jack also is a down side
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that's not confirmed yet, that's in theory, no one knows if they will enforce it

HTC has a huge base in US already, like 1 in 7 phones sold are rebranded HTC...

i think they will do just fine, Google will need time to pimp up the Androids
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that's not confirmed yet, that's in theory, no one knows if they will enforce it

HTC has a huge base in US already, like 1 in 7 phones sold are rebranded HTC...

i think they will do just fine, Google will need time to pimp up the Androids
Its on T-Mobiles site, so we have to wait till someone goes over and sees what happens
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Its on T-Mobiles site, so we have to wait till someone goes over and sees what happens
True but T-Mobile is barely rolling out 3G now so you'd pretty much have to download all day and night to reach 1 gig on EDGE
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True but T-Mobile is barely rolling out 3G now so you'd pretty much have to download all day and night to reach 1 gig on EDGE
It says I have 3G in my area, and my surrounding area
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i actually hope that the google andriod will give iPhone some descent competition.

i just purchased an iPhone, but the iPhone could be so much better. Lets face apple is slow on its updates. How about we still don't have MMS and a descent GPS program.

maybe if the Andriod creates some competition it will force apple to release more programs and features for the iPhone.
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I was considering buying this device but now i probably wont touch it. Doesnt look very good, i buy most of my phones based on looks

To bulky for my tastes, ill wait for a slim G2

But competition is always good!
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You know the 1GB limit struck me also, but I started to think about what I would be doing on the phone. I would hook up to a WiFi at home and at work so I wouldn't be using the 1GB cap all that much.

At most, I might watch a few YouTube videos on the TMo network, but I usually just use maps, fandango, imdb or yelp now on the TMo network. That shouldn't even approach 1GB for me.

The biggest draw for me is the openness of the OS. It's not completely open, but you have to draw the line some where for security purposes. The barcode scanner alone was the app that pushed me over. Too bad it doesn't look like the HTC Touch Pro.

As of now, I'm going to upgrade to one. I'll let you guys know next month what I think about it.
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The phone is compatible all the up to 32gb with a micro-sd card.


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The phone is compatible all the up to 32gb with a micro-sd card.


The biggest killer for corporate members is the lack of microsoft exchange support.
That's the reason why I went with this phone instead of buying the unlocked HTC Diamond. HTC Diamond has 4GB of internal with no slots. HTC Dream aka G1 comes with a 1GB card shipped.

32GB SDHC cards can be had for around $150. 16GB cards are on sale for less then $60....
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Say it isn't so...! I have been eyeballing and researching HTC, Motorola, and The SAMSUNG for ANDROID phones. I haven't quite settled yet, BUT... The more I read what this device DOES... The more I have seriously considered defecting from my beloved BB:

First: The Samsung GALAXY S & Epic 4G

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It may or may not turn out to be the game-changer Samsung says it is, but the Samsung Galaxy S, now in four flavors for four carriers, is indeed a top-shelf smartphone with an astoundingly vibrant screen that puts it in a class by itself-for the moment.

At a press event in New York Tuesday, Samsung showed off four versions of the unit: the Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Fascinate for Verizon Wireless, the Captivate for AT&T, and the Epic 4G for Sprint. Unlike the first three, which offer only a touchscreen, the Epic also has a slide-out QWERTY keyboard.

Omar Khan, chief strategy officer for Samsung Mobile, modestly called the Galaxy S, "the most significant achievement in the smartphone market... We're introducing a new standard to beat in 2010."

The phone features a brilliant 4-inch Super AMOLED screen that is indeed stunning, providing a bright, sharp, and clear display even in bright sunlight. In dark rooms the colors are rich and the contrast excellent without turning blacks into grays. According to Samsung, the unit's display offers a 50,000-to-1 contrast ratio.

In hands-on tests at the well-attended press event, the on-screen keyboard on the Vibrant for T-Mobile and the Epic 4G for Sprint were responsive and quick. Especially welcome is the Swype application for the on-screen keyboard. Instead of tapping keys, with Swype you keep your finger on the on-screen keyboard and drag it from key to key. Predictive software guesses at the word you're trying to spell. In anecdotal testing at the press event Swype came up with the correct word more often than not. In case of confusion, you're given a choice of words.

Like the Motorola Droid, the Samsung Epic's slide-out keys are flat, but the Epic's keys are spaced and thus easier to find when touch typing. The Epic's case also slides opens further than the Droid, exposing enough real estate for five rows of keys, including an all-number top row. The Droid has four rows of keys and requires the Alt key to access numbers. The Epic, at 5.46 ounces, also lacks the Droid's 6-ounce heft.

Thanks to the brilliant display, using the camera on the Galaxy S is a breeze, even on a sunny rooftop, as was the case for part of the New York press event. The subjects are viewed in HDTV-like quality, making composition of the photo easy. In dark rooms the bright display is clearly an asset.

The Vibrant for T-Mobile will come with the movie "Avatar" on a removable memory card. The movie-viewing experience is easily one of the best available on a smartphone. Avatar, with its subtle shadings and rapidly changing scenes, ran without the hint of jitters on the Vibrant and was impressively sharp.

"In short, we are making the smartphone brilliant," said JK Shin, president of Samsung's mobile communications division.

While each carrier tweaks the Galaxy S home screen for its own needs, Android phone veterans should have no problem with any of the four Galaxy S varieties. Instead of a drag-open application tray, an "Applications" key sits innocently on the bottom right of the home screen. The Galaxy S comes with version 2.1 of the Android operating system, but will be upgradeable to version 2.2, which will allow for the later addition of Adobe Flash support.

T-Mobile's Vibrant will be available July 21. Preorders via T-Mobile or Radio Shack start July 1. Sprint, AT&T and Verizon Wireless have not announced release dates for the Epic 4G, Captivate, and Fascinate, respectively. None of the carriers have announced pricing. The T-Mobile preorder requires the purchase of a $50 gift card to be put toward the cost of the phone.
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• Network
- 2G: Quad-Band 850/900/1800/1900MHz
- 3G: Dual-Band 900/2100MHz (Europe/Asia)
• Processor
- Chipset: PowerVR SGX540
- Speed: 1Ghz
• Battery:
- Capacity: 1500 mAh
• Display:
- External: 800 x 480 pixels/4"
- Touch Sensitive(Capacitive)
- Super AMOLED
• Camera:
- 5 mega-pixels (auto-focus)
- Digital Zoom
- LED Flash
- Touch Focus
- Image Stabilization
- Smile Shutter
- Stop Motion
- Action Shot
- Face Recognition
• Video:
- Recording: HD (720p)
- Speed: 30fps
- Video Zoom
- LED Video Light
- Supported formats: MP4, 3GP,WMV, DivX HD, XviD
- Video Streaming
• Music:
- Supported formats: MP3, AAC, eAAC+ & FLAC
• Ringtones:
- Monophonic
- Polyphonic (64)
- MP3
- AAC
• Messaging:
- SMS
- MMS (with video)
- E-mail (POP3, SMTP, IMAP4, GMail, Exchange)
- Twitter - Instant Messaging (Google Talk)
• Memory:
- Phone Book (unlimited)
- Dialled Calls
- Missed Calls
- Received Calls
- 8GB Internal Storage
- microSDHC (external)
• Call Features:
- Hands Free
- Caller ID
- Voice Dialling
- Video Calling
• Connectivity:
- WiFi (802.11 b/g/n)
- DNLA
- HSDPA (3.6Mbps)
- HSUPA (3.6 Mbps)
- Bluetooth (3.0)
- microUSB
- 3.5mm Audio Connector
- TV Out
• Navigation:
- AGPS
- Digital Compass
- Google Maps
• Sensors:
- Accelerometer
- Proximity Sensor
- Light Sensor
• Features:
- Web Browser
- Office Document Viewer (Word, Excel, PowerPoint)
- PDF Viewer
- RSS Reader
- Augmented Reality Browser
- Social Hub
- Daily Briefing
- YouTube Player
- Picasa Integration


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And then the: Motorola DROID X

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The Motorola Droid X is excellent. It's also a little excessive. This Hummer humdinger of a phone delivers the absolute maximum in state-of-the-art Android power, at the cost of stretching the joint between your thumb and your other four fingers. The Droid X will be one of the first phones to run Adobe Flash when a software upgrade arrives later this summer, and its features and quality set a standard for how other Android phones should perform. It gets our Editors' Choice for Verizon smartphones, although there are now a bunch of strong Android-powered choices on Verizon's network.

As Apple pursues the dream of the One Perfect Phone, it's fascinating to see Google Android evolve into the operating system of the Many Perfectly Good Enough Phones. On my desk right now, in descending order of size, are the Droid X, HTC EVO 4G, HTC Droid Incredible, and HTC Aria ($129.99, ). Each one is basically usable—and at least somewhat similar—but they each have something to recommend them. Together, they make the world of smartphones more exciting, and more enticing than it has ever been.
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Physical Features and Call Quality
The Droid X is big iron. In terms of surface area, it's the largest phone available in the US today. At 5 by 2.6 by 0.4 inches (HWD), it's 0.2 inch longer than the HTC EVO 4G ($299.99, ), which is already pretty large. The Droid X's size is only played up by the camera hump on the back. The HTC Droid Incredible ($299.99, ) looks like a child next to the X. Small hands will not hold this phone comfortably. But it's relatively thin and light, considering its size.
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The 4.3-inch, 854 by 480 screen is beautiful to look at, and it's slightly higher resolution than the 800-by-480 panels on other Android super-phones. It's not quite an iPhone 4 ($199.99-699, N/R) "retina screen," but it's as high resolution as anyone will need. Below the vast screen are four hardware buttons.

I'm no fan of touch keyboards, but if you're going to have a touch keyboard, you might as well make it large. The Droid X's keyboard is perfectly adequate, enhanced by the cultish Swype text-entry method, which lets you quickly write words without picking up your finger. Swype is great unless most of your text entry is typing URLs, passwords, or proper names.

Motorola has always made phone call quality a priority, and they try a new trick on the Droid X: three microphones, two used for noise cancellation. The trick works: I didn't get any background noise on the other end of calls made with the X, even when I made the calls standing next to a roaring city bus. RF reception was also spectacular. Thanks to the huge antennas, the Droid X was able to eke out a call where the Incredible failed.

Call quality wasn't perfect, though. At top volumes the Droid X's earpiece exhibits some gain issues, whereas the Incredible remains clear. Transmissions also sounded a bit quiet, and even a little thready on the other end. The Droid X's speakerphone was quite good, though—loud enough to use outdoors, with clear transmissions.

The Droid X paired easily with my Aliph Jawbone Icon ($99, ) Bluetooth headset and—wonder of wonders!—triggered voice dialing over Bluetooth, a rare feature on an Android phone. Voice recognition was pretty accurate.

For data, the Droid X uses Verizon's EV-DO Rev A network, and I got excellent download speeds. The phone works as a WPA2-protected, 802.11g Wi-Fi hotspot for up to five devices, and I fetched up to 2 Mbps down on a PC, although uploads seemed capped around 350 Kbps. Hotspot use costs $20 per month over your standard service plan, and you only get 2GB of hotspot usage before you start being charged $50 per GB extra. Motorola said the phone has a USB tethering mode, but I didn't find it in the USB options.

The large 1570 mAh battery delivered more than eight hours of talk time in our preliminary tests, and battery tests are still ongoing. I anticipate that this phone will have much better battery life overall than the HTC Evo; the large screen means it will probably still need to be recharged every day, but I'm confident in saying the battery won't be a deal-breaker. An even larger, 1930 mAh extended battery which is 1mm thicker will be available at launch as an add-on accessory.

Operating System and Software
The Droid X runs Android 2.1 with the latest version of Motorola's MotoBlur extensions, designed to be less intrusive than the software on phones like the Motorola CLIQ ($199.99, ). The Droid X offers a single interface to sign into a bunch of different kinds of accounts: Google, Yahoo! Mail, various other mail services, Microsoft Exchange, Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, and photo sharing services. An Android 2.2 update that supports Adobe Flash 10.1 is coming later this summer, Motorola says.

Google and Exchange calendars get integrated, and your address book also mixes in Facebook, Twitter and MySpace friends. When you click to a contact card, you can see all of a friend's updates; you can also select just one of your phone books if the whole mixed list is too overwhelming.

Blur's universal inbox treats Facebook and MySpace e-mails and Twitter DMs as e-mails, mixing them in with your other messages. I think that's great.

Where Blur falls short, though, is in up-to-the-minute updates of Twitter and rich support for Facebook walls. It's just no substitute for dedicated clients. Built-in home screen widgets show slightly stale Twitter updates and stripped-down Facebook posts, but they leave you behind in fast-moving conversations.

And no, there's no way to turn off Blur. If you don't sign into various accounts, however, it won't aggregate that information.

Blur may also be a drag on performance; I had occasional freezes and slowdowns using this phone, and I didn't see faster Web browsing speeds on the Droid X compared to the Incredible.

That's a pity, because the Droid X's 1-GHz TI OMAP 3630 processor is the fastest I've benchmarked—faster than Qualcomm's Snapdragon. I use four freeware benchmarks on Android phones: BenchmarkPi, CaffeineMark, LinPack, Softweg and Neocore. (Why those four? Because they were the only ones available when I started benchmarking Android devices last year.) The first three focus on CPU performance, the fourth mixes in memory and file-system performance, and the last simulates a 3D game. The Droid X beat all other Android devices on every raw benchmark, including 3D gaming performance. (Synthetic benchmarks like these can't be used to compare different OS platforms.)

You'll find the usual Android services on here, including the latest version of Google Maps Navigation. The Droid X's GPS locked onto my location quickly and easily and delivered spoken directions. I downloaded a range of apps from Android Market without a problem.

AT&T, take notice: The Droid X has zero bloatware. Rather than littering the phone with extra-cost services, Verizon nicely tucks them under a "Verizon" channel in the Android market.

Multimedia and Conclusions
The Droid X is a fine music phone, but it's really big if you're looking for a device to primarily play music on. With 8GB of built-in memory and one 16GB microSD card included, there's plenty of room for your media. The phone plays AAC, MP3, WMA and WAV music, and syncs with doubleTwist (Free, ) on the desktop, as well as with Verizon's own free V CAST Media Manager. (doubleTwist is better.) Music sounded rich and clear through wired or stereo Bluetooth headphones. If you don't feel like loading your own music, there's an FM radio with 15 presets.

The Droid X's 8-megapixel camera is one of the best I've seen on a phone. I like its still photos more than the EVO's or Incredible's; it deals better with wide dynamic range in daylight shots, and takes sharp photos in good light with more subtle delineation of textures. Low-light photos are softer than the Incredible's, though, possibly because the Droid X's flash is a bit weaker.

The phone lacks a front-facing camera, but I don't see that as a huge problem right now; Android video-calling software is buggy and hard to use. That said, I streamed Qik video one way without a problem.

As promised, the Droid X captures 720p video at 24 frames per second, which played smoothly on my Mac and PC, although I couldn't play it on the very phone I captured it with.

The Droid X is an excellent phone for watching video, as long as you're watching it on the phone. It supports an unusually deep range of codecs—I played 480p-format files in simple MP4, H.264, WMV, and even DIVX and XVID format. YouTube videos in HQ (480p) mode streamed over Wi-Fi looked sharp, and Verizon's $10-per-month V CAST service has assembled a decent list of content partners. The phone will also stream full NFL games with an upcoming app.

The X's Blockbuster app turns out to be less enticing in practice than in theory. There's no subscription option, and rentals are overpriced at $4 per day. (It costs $15-20 to purchase most films.) Forget about impulse viewing: it took me two hours to download Shutter Island over Wi-Fi. "Legal movies on your phone" sounds great on paper, but the user experience just isn't here.

The Droid X's supposed HD support also felt like a tease and a cheat. The Droid X has an HDMI output that works with standard Micro HDMI cables, same as the Sprint EVO 4G. But the HD out only works with the X's built-in photo and video gallery app—not with YouTube, nor V CAST, nor Blockbuster. And I couldn't get the phone to play any 720p videos, not even ones I recorded with the phone itself. Motorola said it was supposed to, and suggested that I had a buggy phone.

The Droid X gets our nod over the HTC Droid Incredible because of its better camera, Bluetooth voice dialing, Wi-Fi hotspot mode and various other built-in apps. But the Droid X isn't for everyone: This phone is huge. Its performance is close enough to the Incredible's that I'm still very comfortable recommending that the smaller-pawed go for the HTC smartphone, unless you need a specific Droid X feature. Folks looking for a great Verizon smartphone with a hardware keyboard should probably wait for the Motorola Droid 2, which Motorola's CEO Sanjay Jha promised us months ago.

The Motorola Droid X goes on sale July 15 for $299.99 with a two-year contract, minus a $100 mail-in rebate. All Verizon Wireless customers with contracts ending in 2010 are eligible for the $299.99 price.
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