The douchery in here is increasing by the minute. Look I was a huge fan in the 80s and early 90s. As he cases came and the music wasn't as good, I distanced myself. However when there was a party and MJ came on, didn't matter, people danced their asses off.
I really didn't realize how much music he had until today. for the past week all we are hearing is MJ news and music but it DOESN'T SOUND OLD (to me). It still sound good and fresh. I'm actually not tired of it.
I don't care about his cases (he never was found guilty of anything, paying does not mean guilt) and I don't care that the man is lighter than ME. Every piece of news since his death has been positive. I tried NOT to watch the funeral but the speeches were so positive I could not help but be touched.
your my hero lol
but really MJ on the news still isnt boring to me... i didnt do ish today just so i can stay home and watch the memorial... it was VERY touching especially when his daughter spoke.. and it makes you remember this guy was also a father and a GREAT one at that!
everytime i hear one of michael jacksons songs i cant help but smile and dance... and all my life its been like that not just this week
Well I thought the funeral was crap. It was heavily overproduced and felt like a feekin telethon with everyone on cue. I also think it's rather a joke that when he was alive he was seen with anyone EXCEPT black people and as moreso known to be around "everyone else" such as the kids he had at his ranch and their parents. He was mostly talked about with Elizabeth Taylor, Brooke Shields, Macaulay Culkin etc.... Musicians that were black such as Usher gave him his props, but the majority of popular black community didn't even say his name in public when he went from a black man to a white skinned "freak" that was constantly being abused of molesting children.
....then he died..... and along came Jesse Jackson the second it hit the media and he saw a chance to jump in on a black celebrity death that was gonna be front page news. Congrats mike, you're black again as far as Jesse is concerned, long as you stay in the headlines. Nobody black took Mike under their wing with all the controversy while he was alive. Once he was dead and people saw how popular he actually was..... "Mike's black again". Surrounded by mostly black persons speaking about him in the media, when the reality is his fan base was so diverse there is no one single group. What did the media want though? Let's make Mike black again, Jesse says it's ok.
I thought the majority of the media coverage was an atrocity of biased bull^&* that really in no way reflected Michael's actual position in life and persons he spent his time with or his fan base. Michael was never a bias in any way to any race and was someone that anyone would be proud of as an ambassador to bridge gaps. The made for TV funeral was the icing on the cake for me to the point that I just can't watch anything media related anymore on this. Crock of.......
i had to read your post a couple of times to hopefully get your points, but i think they're good ones. it did seem ridiculous that almost everyone at the memorial was black. of course i'm not denying jackson was black, but you're right, in life he not only LITERALLY tried to erase his ethnicity, but it seemed like black entertainers, black 'leaders' and media disowned him too, but in his passing, they're baaaack.
but i overlooked the hypocrisy and just enjoyed the show.
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i had to read your post a couple of times to hopefully get your points, but i think they're good ones. it did seem ridiculous that almost everyone at the memorial was black. of course i'm not denying jackson was black, but you're right, in life he not only LITERALLY tried to erase his ethnicity, but it seemed like black entertainers, black 'leaders' and media disowned him too, but in his passing, they're baaaack.
but i overlooked the hypocrisy and just enjoyed the show.
I don't recall it being a black rally? Maybe white people and other races just didn't go? Some people in here said "I would avoid downtown at all costs". Do we even have statistics to see what races went?
He is not the first person to die and people realize "you know what, he wasn't that bad of a guy". We both know sometimes a person's greatest legacy and full acknowledgment sadly comes with death.
To be honest I didn't notice the races there. All I noticed was a bunch of people who came to support MJ.
first off i love MJs music...but i agree, all this coverage really is getting kinda dull. i also love how before his death, he didnt get much publicity and everytime his name was mentioned it was always pedophile this or molester that. but now after his death, everyone is all so forgiving and is all, oh we miss you.
RIP MJ but we need news on other things around the world instead of news of where MJ is going to be buried.
i had to read your post a couple of times to hopefully get your points, but i think they're good ones. it did seem ridiculous that almost everyone at the memorial was black. of course i'm not denying jackson was black, but you're right, in life he not only LITERALLY tried to erase his ethnicity, but it seemed like black entertainers, black 'leaders' and media disowned him too, but in his passing, they're baaaack.
but i overlooked the hypocrisy and just enjoyed the show.
.....and WIN.
Thank you.
...but I have noticed it from the first day with Joe Jackson and Jesse Jackson walking together waiving. Both were wh@ring or attention in the spotlight. When I saw Jesse and Joe together the Sharpton later that day I was like WTF?
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If I had to guess MJ never touched a child "in that way".
Its to bad we never got to see him make the 50 concert tour. Maybe he left behind some music from his new album. I think they should have the dancers go on tour anyway and get someone to lip sync his music.
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I don't recall it being a black rally? Maybe white people and other races just didn't go? Some people in here said "I would avoid downtown at all costs". Do we even have statistics to see what races went?
He is not the first person to die and people realize "you know what, he wasn't that bad of a guy". We both know sometimes a person's greatest legacy and full acknowledgment sadly comes with death.
To be honest I didn't notice the races there. All I noticed was a bunch of people who came to support MJ.
Maybe its just me being a mutt.
i wasn't writing about the audience, but the performers/presenters/speakers. besides brooke shields, john mayer, and the asian woman who sang lead on one of mj's songs, i think everyone else was black, but why a black politician, and al sharpton, and magic johnson talking about fried chicken (spot the stereotype, even if true in his anecdote).
i just think the presenters/performers might have been more the 'rainbow' that MJ seemed to write and perform a lot about. today i was actually listening to 'black or white', 'man in the mirror', and other mj songs about image/race and getting past it. great stuff.
as an aside, i retract a bit of what i wrote above about mj trying to be 'white', because if his dermatologist is believed, and i don't have reason not to, mj's skin had become white in 'patches' due to a condition, and he had to either use make-up to stay dark, or medication/treatments to go all light.
i've talked to a few people abot mj, most of whom think while talented he was a perverted pedophile. i still disagree with that, i think he was pathetically naive thinking sleepovers with other people's kids was ok - i don't think any sex was involved at all. people i've talked to say he was charged 3 times and paid 10s of millions in settlements and so must be guilty, but again i don't agree, i think he was framed, and didn't want to go through the trials.
final thought on mj though, if reports are to be believed, the family tried more than once to intervene to get him off vast amounts of dangerous prescription drugs, but failed. ultimately if mj wanted to stay on those drugs no matter what, then he was on a rapid path to self-destruction which seems the most likely, and sad, explanation of his 'end'.
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Joe Jackson was born in Fountain Hill, Arkansas, the eldest of four to Samuel Jackson and Crystal Lee King.[1] Joseph's parents separated when he was twelve. He moved with his father to Oakland, California, where he lived until after turning eighteen when he moved to East Chicago, Indiana to live near his mother. While there, he met his future wife Katherine Scruse. After a brief marriage to another woman and then annulment, Jackson and Katherine began a courtship resulting in their November 5, 1949 marriage. Settling in Gary, Indiana, Joseph, a former boxer, worked full-time as a crane operator at Gary's U.S. Steel company, while Katherine tended to their children. In the mid-1950s, Joseph started a music career with his brother Luther, playing guitar in a band called the Falcons. The group split up a couple of years later after the group failed to get a recording deal. Joe returned full time to his job at U.S. Steel.
Children
Joseph Jackson had eleven children. Ten children were born to Katherine, of whom nine lived to adulthood while an eleventh child was born with a Jackson 5 groupie named Cheryl Terrell.
With Katherine Jackson (née Scruse)
1. Daughter Rebbie Jackson, born May 29, 1950 (1950-05-29) (age 59)
2. Son Jackie Jackson, born May 4, 1951 (1951-05-04) (age 58)
3. Son Tito Jackson, born October 15, 1953 (1953-10-15) (age 55)
4. Son Jermaine Jackson, born December 11, 1954 (1954-12-11) (age 54)
5. Daughter La Toya Jackson, born May 29, 1956 (1956-05-29) (age 53)
6. Twin Son Marlon Jackson, born March 12, 1957 (1957-03-12) (age 52)
7. Twin Son Brandon Jackson, born March 12, 1957, died hours after birth March 12, 1957 (aged 0)
8. Son Michael Jackson, born August 29, 1958, died June 25, 2009 (aged 50)
9. Son Randy Jackson, born October 29, 1961 (1961-10-29) (age 47)
10. Daughter Janet Jackson, born May 16, 1966 (1966-05-16) (age 43)
With Cheryl Terrell
Daughter Joh'Vonnie Jackson, born August 30, 1974 (1974-08-30) (age 34) half-sister of the above children.
[edit] Grandchildren
Joe has 27 Grandchildren
Daughter Rebbie has 3 children:
Stacee Brown (born 1971)
Yashi Brown (born 1977)
Austin Brown (born November 22, 1985)
Son Jackie has 2 children:
Sigmund Jackson, Jr. (born June 29, 1977)
Brandi Jackson (born February 6, 1982)
Son Tito has 3 sons (who form the R&B group 3T):
Toriano Adaryll Jackson "Taj" II (born August 4, 1973)
Taryll Adren Jackson (born August 8, 1975)
Tito Joseph "TJ" Jackson (born July 16, 1978)
Son Jermaine has 10 children:
Jermaine Lajaune "Jay" Jackson Jr]]. (born January 27, 1977) with Hazel
Autumn Jackson (born 1978) with Hazel
Dawn Jackson (born 1985) A sponsor child for Jermaine[citation needed]
Jeremy Jackson (born 1986) with Margaret
Jaimy Jackson (born 1987) with Hazel
Jasmine Jackson (born 1988)[citation needed]
Jourdyn Jackson (born 1989) with Margaret
Donte Jackson(1991) (given to Jermaine/Alej by Joseph Jackson and adopted by the couple)[citation needed]
Jaffar Jackson (born 1996) with Alejandra
Jermajesty Jackson (born 2000) with Alejandra
Daughter La Toya has no children
Son Marlon has 3 children:
Valencia Jackson (born 1977)
Brittany Jackson (born 1979)
Marlon David Jackson Jr (born 1982)
Son Michael had 3 children:
Michael Jackson Jr (born February 13, 1997)
Paris Michael Katherine Jackson (born April 3, 1998)
Prince Michael Jackson II (born February 2002)
Son Randy has 3 children
Genevieve Jackson (December 3, 1989) with Alejandra
Stevanna Jackson (June 17, 1990) with Eliza
Steven Randall Jackson Jr (October 2, 1991) with Alejandra
Daughter Janet Jackson has no children
p.s. Randy Jackson was married (and had two children) to Alejandra. Jermanie Jackson decided to keep her in the family, and he married her and gave her TWO more children (gross). See the above again.....
Yesterday I Cried for Lost Black Boys: Sadness for Michael
Yesterday I cried watching the Michael Jackson memorial.
I cried for a little black boy who felt the world didn't understand him. I cried for a little black boy who spent his adulthood chasing his
childhood.
And I thought about all the young black boys out there who may too feel that the world doesn't understand them.
The ones who feel that the world does not understand their baggy jeans, their swagger,their music, their anger, their struggles, their fears or the chip on their shoulder.
I worry that my son, may too,
one day will feel lonely in a wide, wide world.
I cried for the young children of all colors
who may live their life
feeling like a misfit, feeling like no one understands their
perspective, or their soul What a burden to carry.
As a mother, I cried for Katherine Jackson
because no mother should ever bury a child. Period.
And I think about all the pain, tears and
sleepless nights that she must have endured
seeing her baby boy in inner pain, seeing him struggle
with his self-esteem, and his insecurities and to know he often felt unloved even while the world loved him deeply
How does it feel to think that the unconditional love we give as mothers just isn't enough to make our children feel whole?
I wonder if she still suffers thinking, "what more could I have
done?" Even moms of music legends aren't immune
to mommy guilt, I suppose.
When Rev. Al Sharpton
(who always delivers one hell of a funeral speech) said to Michael's children, "Your daddy was not strange...It was strange what your Daddy had to deal with," I thought of all the
"strange" things of the world that my children
will have to deal with.
Better yet, the things I hope they won't ever
have to deal with anymore.
And as a mother raising a young black boy,
I feel recommitted and yet
a little confused as to how to make sure my
son is sure enough within
himself to take on the world.
Especially a "strange" one. To love himself enough to know that even when the world doesn't understand you, tries to force you into its mold or treats you unkindly, you are
still beautiful, strong and Black. How do I do that?
Today, I am taking back "childhood" as an
inalienable right for every
brown little one. In a world, that makes children into
booty-shaking, mini-adults long before their time,
I'm reclaiming the playful, innocent, run-around-outside, childhood as the key ingredient in raising confident adults.
Second, I will not rest until my littleblack boy, MY Michael, knows that his broad nose is beautiful, his chocolately brown skin is beautiful, and his thick hair is beautiful.
And nothing or no one can ever take that away from him.
"Now aint we bad? And ain't we black? And ain't we fine?
---Maya Angelou
MJ was always a tragic figure. Blessed with incredible talent, he made millions, and had all the material things he ever wanted. The replay of his shopping in Las Vegas pointing at objet's d' questionable art worth $150,000 - $250,000 each, saying "one of those, one of those, two of those" as he walked, just boggles the mind of most of us. My wife reminded me that a few months later he was involved in legal action - never having PAID for his selections.
With everything he owned, and his fabulous wealth, he never had a friend. From an early age he was surrounded by people who took advantage of him. He began to close himself off to the world, and for the last twenty years had nothing but yes-men around him, 24/7. These people knew their jobs were on the line, so they denied him nothing. They never questioned him, never told him the truth. Michael Jackson was a prisoner of his own success, an emotionally stunted child to the end.
He's gone, and the earthly judgment process begins. The remaining tragedy is that of his children, Prince Michael, Paris, and Prince Michael II, who have grown up in a supremely twisted world of nannies, security guards, and assorted hangers-on, like Michael, with no friends, no consistent schooling, and no socialization. They are essentially emotionally feral children that may prove to be as deeply wounded as their adoptive father. These are kids who were raised in an amusement park by people who were paid to love them. I pray that they can find a home where some degree of normal life prevails, and that they find the friendship, camaraderie, and love that their father so sadly missed.
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question - does anyone know who the mother or father are of the youngest, prince 'blanket' michael ii? of the 3 i think he looks most like michael jackson.
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