What a 4th Gen GS looks like w/a drop & 19" Wheels
02-11-12, 02:28 AM
#1
Lexus Connoisseur
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What a 4th Gen GS looks like w/a drop & 19" Wheels
Stock GS 350 F Sport:
Lowered GS 350 w/19" Wheels:
Lowered GS 350 w/19" Wheels:
Last edited by flipside909; 02-11-12 at 02:35 AM.
02-11-12, 02:33 AM
#2
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Stock:
Lowered:
Lowered:
02-11-12, 07:27 AM
#3
Lead Lap
Aren't those the "premium" package 18" wheels?
02-11-12, 09:32 PM
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Pole Position
02-12-12, 12:24 AM
#6
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Nope, they're repainted 19" F Sport wheels. 
That GS F Sport is in Nebula Gray Pearl w/the really nice Cabernet leather interior.
That GS F Sport is in Nebula Gray Pearl w/the really nice Cabernet leather interior.
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02-12-12, 10:31 AM
#8
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Real sport sedans don't ride hella flush or tucked. When driving a proper sport sedan, you need a certain level of gap to accomodate for wheel movement during high speed cornering and turns. If you're rubbing, bottoming out during dips or turns, the car is working against itself to actually perform. You either are lowered too low for the chassis to handle or the wheels are too wide for the car.
02-12-12, 03:11 PM
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Real sport sedans don't ride hella flush or tucked. When driving a proper sport sedan, you need a certain level of gap to accomodate for wheel movement during high speed cornering and turns. If you're rubbing, bottoming out during dips or turns, the car is working against itself to actually perform. You either are lowered too low for the chassis to handle or the wheels are too wide for the car.
02-12-12, 03:52 PM
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Now to the other statement....what the hell does fender gap have to do with wheel travel. A BMW M3 has more travel than a Lexus IS, it handles better as well, but the wheel has less of a gap. Why you ask, because how the fender is designed and the wheel well itself can afford to have more up travel than the Japanese cars were designed to do. Not to mention the fenders seem to be cut lower. So instead of using your guestimate based on what YOU would figure based on the look. Do some research prior to making statements which are totally illegitimate an inaccurate. These forums are just full of mis information.
02-12-12, 10:42 PM
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"Boy, were we right. Lexus has since tweaked all suspension elements. Spring rates are down in the front and up in the rear, and there are larger anti-roll bars, stiffer subframe bushings, and longer bump stops, which effectively increase spring rates when the car is nearing its maximum roll angle. Lexus also lightened the front hubs and control arms and slapped a Torsen limited-slip differential in the rear axle. The result is BMW M3–matching performance around VIR (3:05.4). That’s heady company for Lexus to be keeping. Especially considering that the IS F weighs 3801 pounds (195 more than the M3) and makes only two additional horsepower, at 416."
Source: C&D
Now to the other statement....what the hell does fender gap have to do with wheel travel. A BMW M3 has more travel than a Lexus IS, it handles better as well, but the wheel has less of a gap. Why you ask, because how the fender is designed and the wheel well itself can afford to have more up travel than the Japanese cars were designed to do. Not to mention the fenders seem to be cut lower. So instead of using your guestimate based on what YOU would figure based on the look. Do some research prior to making statements which are totally illegitimate an inaccurate. These forums are just full of mis information.
Last edited by flipside909; 02-12-12 at 11:05 PM.
02-12-12, 10:51 PM
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GS and M3 are two totally different cars. One a mid size luxury, M3 factory tuned performance. If I recall, there was a test done recently by car & driver where the IS F had a better laptime than an M3. IS F has way more wheel gap than M3, but it managed to match the M3's LL time at VIR:
"Boy, were we right. Lexus has since tweaked all suspension elements. Spring rates are down in the front and up in the rear, and there are larger anti-roll bars, stiffer subframe bushings, and longer bump stops, which effectively increase spring rates when the car is nearing its maximum roll angle. Lexus also lightened the front hubs and control arms and slapped a Torsen limited-slip differential in the rear axle. The result is BMW M3–matching performance around VIR (3:05.4). That’s heady company for Lexus to be keeping. Especially considering that the IS F weighs 3801 pounds (195 more than the M3) and makes only two additional horsepower, at 416."
Source: C&D
A BMW M3 has more wheel travel than an IS? How so? Do you have measurements to back that up? You said it yourself. "Fenders seem to be cut lower". Sounds like you're uncertain of the facts as its only your guess from aesthetics. Slammed doesn't mean it handles better. Putting wheel spacers on a car, riding on the wrong tire specs and all season tires isn't a recipe for a sports sedan. A proper plus sized tire combo with the correct wheel offsets and summer spec tires will. Wheel spacers are a band aid for proper fitting wheels, plus they just do more damage than good in the long run.
"Boy, were we right. Lexus has since tweaked all suspension elements. Spring rates are down in the front and up in the rear, and there are larger anti-roll bars, stiffer subframe bushings, and longer bump stops, which effectively increase spring rates when the car is nearing its maximum roll angle. Lexus also lightened the front hubs and control arms and slapped a Torsen limited-slip differential in the rear axle. The result is BMW M3–matching performance around VIR (3:05.4). That’s heady company for Lexus to be keeping. Especially considering that the IS F weighs 3801 pounds (195 more than the M3) and makes only two additional horsepower, at 416."
Source: C&D
A BMW M3 has more wheel travel than an IS? How so? Do you have measurements to back that up? You said it yourself. "Fenders seem to be cut lower". Sounds like you're uncertain of the facts as its only your guess from aesthetics. Slammed doesn't mean it handles better. Putting wheel spacers on a car, riding on the wrong tire specs and all season tires isn't a recipe for a sports sedan. A proper plus sized tire combo with the correct wheel offsets and summer spec tires will. Wheel spacers are a band aid for proper fitting wheels, plus they just do more damage than good in the long run.
02-12-12, 11:04 PM
#13
Lexus Connoisseur
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Wheel travel, suspension design & geometry, and wheel house design are everything.
02-13-12, 06:28 PM
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