Suspension and Brakes Springs, shocks, coilovers, sways, braces, brakes, etc.

L-tuned Springs: the end of the speculation

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-12-03, 09:38 PM
  #1  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default L-tuned Springs: the end of the speculation

I am not sure if the issue of L-tuned=Eibach was ever resolved. After performing a side by side comparison, I came to the conclusion that they are not exactly the same set of springs regardless of whether or not Eibach made the springs for Lexus.

Test #1. The springs were weighed on a professional scale. Result:

L-tuned front, 10.0625 lbs.
Eibach front, 9.8125 lbs.

L-tuned rear, 10.00 lbs.
Eibach rear, 10.00 lbs.

Test #2. Downward force applied. This is with the use of a lever using a constant weight. Result:
The Eibachs provided a bit higher spring rate than the L-tuned. Not day and night difference but conclusive enough to suggest the findings.

Test #3. Physical observation. Result:
Fronts: The Eibach has two small winds of coil towards the end whereas the L-tuned has one small wind of coil. That is proof of why the L-tuned has less spring rate.

On the picture below, the Eibach is on top of the L-tuned.

Last edited by whitels; 08-13-03 at 05:55 PM.
Old 08-12-03, 09:40 PM
  #2  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Test #4.
Rears: Almost the same, although it appears that the base of the L-tuned coil is slimmer than the Eibach.

See pictures below.

Last edited by whitels; 08-13-03 at 05:59 PM.
Old 08-13-03, 05:55 AM
  #3  
DaveGS4
Forum Administrator

iTrader: (2)
 
DaveGS4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 31,433
Received 2,128 Likes on 1,298 Posts
Default

Wow, great post and information, thanks!

A mystery that's been around for a long time! I always thought my old Eibachs felt different than the L-tuned in other's cars, but wasn't sure if i was just the shocks being different... Guess it was both
Old 08-13-03, 07:41 AM
  #4  
tomtnc
Pole Position
 
tomtnc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 395
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Very informative post!

I haven't followed the discussion so excuse my ignorance here....but the missing data to prove one way or another has been a lack of published spring rates for the L-tuned set?
Old 08-13-03, 05:54 PM
  #5  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default L-tuned and Eibach Front Springs

L-tuned (on bottom of the pic) and Eibach Springs, for the front. Note the two small coil windings on the Eibach versus L-tuned's single.
Attached Thumbnails L-tuned Springs: the end of the speculation-sprfrt.jpg  

Last edited by whitels; 08-13-03 at 05:58 PM.
Old 08-13-03, 06:01 PM
  #6  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Note the base of the coils....the L-tuned has a slimmer spring base.
Attached Thumbnails L-tuned Springs: the end of the speculation-sprgrr.jpg  
Old 08-14-03, 03:12 PM
  #7  
LexFather
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

This is GREAT info. As this questioned is asked hella time. READING NEWB???
Old 08-15-03, 10:10 PM
  #8  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Another FYI. Stock OEM springs weigh approximately 3 lbs LESS per piece when compared to both Eibach and L-tuned springs!!!!
Old 08-15-03, 10:18 PM
  #9  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

L-tuned (on top) next to the OEM spring, both rears. Now you know why the OEM dieted by 3 lbs ;-))
Attached Thumbnails L-tuned Springs: the end of the speculation-oemlt.jpg  

Last edited by whitels; 08-15-03 at 10:46 PM.
Old 08-22-03, 01:07 PM
  #10  
PHML
Master Thread Closer!!
iTrader: (33)
 
PHML's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Waipahu, Waikele, HI
Posts: 9,859
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

so....the Eibachs are more stiff?

how about Eibach Pro kit + Ltuned shocks combo?

Will that be stiff?

Pete
Old 08-23-03, 12:33 AM
  #11  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally posted by PHML
so....the Eibachs are more stiff?

how about Eibach Pro kit + Ltuned shocks combo?

Will that be stiff?

Pete
That should be more comfy than Eibach/Bilstein, or a hair stiffer than full L-tuned.
Old 08-23-03, 08:49 PM
  #12  
KVA
Lexus Champion
 
KVA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: CA
Posts: 2,702
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

I have the Bilstein/Eibach Pro Kit combo and the ride is excellent! Not that stiff at all...best of all the ladies can't tell the difference!!!
Old 08-24-03, 11:36 AM
  #13  
BuyERTS
Lead Lap
 
BuyERTS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: California
Posts: 771
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by KVA
I have the Bilstein/Eibach Pro Kit combo and the ride is excellent! Not that stiff at all...best of all the ladies can't tell the difference!!!
What do you mean ladies (plural)? We know you're a married man!
Old 08-24-03, 11:43 PM
  #14  
whitels
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
 
whitels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: California
Posts: 1,580
Likes: 0
Received 19 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally posted by KVA
I have the Bilstein/Eibach Pro Kit combo and the ride is excellent! Not that stiff at all...best of all the ladies can't tell the difference!!!
What tires/rims are you running?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Alexus-Kia
2Gen GS430 / 400/ 300 Classifieds (98-05)
1
06-29-05 07:53 PM
Alexus-Kia
2Gen GS430 / 400/ 300 Classifieds (98-05)
1
06-24-05 02:52 PM
pat14lee
Suspension and Brakes
4
06-08-04 09:50 AM
shadow
Suspension and Brakes
1
04-26-03 10:43 PM



Quick Reply: L-tuned Springs: the end of the speculation



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:36 AM.