Understeer at the limit
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Understeer at the limit
Hello there CL.
I'm wondering if anyone has a cheap way to fix the understeer push at the limit when cornering. I noticed that there is quite a bit of understeer at the limit of cornering in this car. It's not particularly bad, but it's definitely there.
My car is a stock 3IS 350 F-sport running the stock tires.
I'm going to be installing Michelin Pilot SS tires soon and F-sport springs. I was thinking of putting on a rear sway bar to get the rear to come around a bit.
Just BTW, I don't want to modify this car too much because it's mainly driven by my fiancé. I just drive it sometimes, but when I do drive the car. I seriously drive the car.. lol
I was just hoping someone could provide some insight on how to fix the slight understeer. Just to give a frame of reference to what I'm looking for, I enjoy neutral handling w/ slight oversteer. I don't like a car that oversteers or understeers too much.
Thanks for your help guys!
I'm wondering if anyone has a cheap way to fix the understeer push at the limit when cornering. I noticed that there is quite a bit of understeer at the limit of cornering in this car. It's not particularly bad, but it's definitely there.
My car is a stock 3IS 350 F-sport running the stock tires.
I'm going to be installing Michelin Pilot SS tires soon and F-sport springs. I was thinking of putting on a rear sway bar to get the rear to come around a bit.
Just BTW, I don't want to modify this car too much because it's mainly driven by my fiancé. I just drive it sometimes, but when I do drive the car. I seriously drive the car.. lol
I was just hoping someone could provide some insight on how to fix the slight understeer. Just to give a frame of reference to what I'm looking for, I enjoy neutral handling w/ slight oversteer. I don't like a car that oversteers or understeers too much.
Thanks for your help guys!
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Installing stickier tires won't help you with the under steering problem. If anything, you should go square setup.
With traction control fully off, the car feels pretty neutral to me. the stock tires have just enough slippage.
With traction control fully off, the car feels pretty neutral to me. the stock tires have just enough slippage.
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Lexus Test Driver
A nice upgrade would be the RC350 swaybar, but unfortunately the rear end has to be dropped for access. By rear end, the subframe has to come down. it's not like a traditional car where it's easy to slide under and bolt it on in half an hour. You can probably get away (if anyone wants to do this) with partially lowering the subframe, i imagine. but you'll probably want to get an alignment after. Or you can take your chances.
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Coming from a BRZ, while slow it was great in corners, my IS305 Fsport in sport + just pushes in corners. First loop i took i planted the power mid off ramp loop i expected the back to come around and all the over lords to kick in and put me back in line nope it just pushed the front into heavy under steer.
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Coming from a BRZ, while slow it was great in corners, my IS305 Fsport in sport + just pushes in corners. First loop i took i planted the power mid off ramp loop i expected the back to come around and all the over lords to kick in and put me back in line nope it just pushed the front into heavy under steer.
#12
Lexus Test Driver
Coming from a BRZ, while slow it was great in corners, my IS305 Fsport in sport + just pushes in corners. First loop i took i planted the power mid off ramp loop i expected the back to come around and all the over lords to kick in and put me back in line nope it just pushed the front into heavy under steer.
the rear subframe is tuned way too soft on the IS. quite a bit of movement.
maybe you can consider running rear wheels and tires up front and adding an RC350 sway bar. should even things out a bit.
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#14
Solution: cut sway bar in half, thread both ends through, then weld together. If you don't have a welder, you could probably get away with a combination of JB weld and a bunch of duct tape.
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