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Old 09-22-15, 07:52 AM
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Hello,

My car currently has some negative camber which I would like to address. Now I am a little confused as to which parts are required to fix this. Parts that come to mind are the ball joints, & control arms. Now which parts would i need to fix my camber.

Any help would be great.

Thanks.
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Rear camber arms (pick a brand) and adjustable front upper control arms (pick a brand).
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SPC Ball joints are what I used to fix -1.5 degree camber (front left & right)
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Quick question, next year I will be buying coil overs. I'm on 20s and my car is awd, do I need to buy rear camber arms?
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Depends on how low you go.
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Originally Posted by VTsuckah
Depends on how low you go.
Stock height for AWD models is 27 inches fender to ground. They say the 'safe zone' is 25 inches and some say 24.5. I'm going with 24.5 so I would be 2.5 inches lowered from stock height.
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whats needed for awd
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Originally Posted by Gville350
Rear camber arms (pick a brand) and adjustable front upper control arms (pick a brand).
Will Rear camber upper arms fix the issue with the back?
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Yes, adjustable camber arms are only needed for the rear.
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Originally Posted by VTsuckah
Yes, adjustable camber arms are only needed for the rear.
Megan's has these no1 no2 control arms. Which ones would be the best to use?
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^The more time I spend with the rear suspension, the more I am convinced that the "best" arm to use to adjust camber is the lower main arm, from FIGS.

Back to the Megan arms, the #1 arm is NOT a camber adjusting arm. The #2 arm is the camber arm. If you try and use the #1 arm to "fix" your camber you will end up screwing up the toe curve and wearing out tires VERY prematurely.

This whole discussion begs the question, what is "some" negative camber, and what would you like to "fix" it to? In other words, you need to decide what you want to fix and why before you start throwing money at adjustable arms.
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Originally Posted by WylieKylie
^The more time I spend with the rear suspension, the more I am convinced that the "best" arm to use to adjust camber is the lower main arm, from FIGS.

Back to the Megan arms, the #1 arm is NOT a camber adjusting arm. The #2 arm is the camber arm. If you try and use the #1 arm to "fix" your camber you will end up screwing up the toe curve and wearing out tires VERY prematurely.

This whole discussion begs the question, what is "some" negative camber, and what would you like to "fix" it to? In other words, you need to decide what you want to fix and why before you start throwing money at adjustable arms.
What I mainly want to do make my tires flat with the road so that the surface is worn as evenly as possible.

Because my car is currently lowered, it has some negative camber ( i think around -2 degrees) and I need some sort of camber kit to fix this issue before it starts eating up my winter tires.
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Originally Posted by MIca250
Stock height for AWD models is 27 inches fender to ground. They say the 'safe zone' is 25 inches and some say 24.5. I'm going with 24.5 so I would be 2.5 inches lowered from stock height.
I was at the 25" fender to ground height and still vibrated quite a bit...
I got the sage rca spacers (which add negative camber fyi) to supposedly help with this.
I am now sitting at about 23" fender to ground with AWD.... still vibrates once and a while though!


I have the FIGS mega lca arms in the back, and plans to get the spc ball joints for the front.
There are many, many different brands and options to adjust camber and toe in the back, but very few for the front for AWD.... the spc ball joints for the front is the most common for AWD.

Please remember that toe wears tires more than camber.
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Originally Posted by Nixcision
I was at the 25" fender to ground height and still vibrated quite a bit...
I got the sage rca spacers (which add negative camber fyi) to supposedly help with this.
I am now sitting at about 23" fender to ground with AWD.... still vibrates once and a while though!


I have the FIGS mega lca arms in the back, and plans to get the spc ball joints for the front.
There are many, many different brands and options to adjust camber and toe in the back, but very few for the front for AWD.... the spc ball joints for the front is the most common for AWD.

Please remember that toe wears tires more than camber.

I'm not worried about the vibration as long as it doesn't shake too bad lol. I'm on h&r sprigs for now and it vibrates l when I'm stopped but I just put it in N.

Being at 23 fender to ground do you have any issues? I've read that below 24.5 your looking at cv boots ripping off or axles leaking. Any fender mods being that low? I'm on 20s.

Thanks for the info and I will look into the lca arms and spc ball joints.
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Nothing to report so far, except for the vibrations.

No fender mods for me, but I'm currently running a pretty standard, square setup. I did camber a bit for a bit of tuck which helped fit my tires under my fenders without mods needed.

This setup is for sale as I'd like to have more of an aggressive set lol


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