F Sport FRONT & REAR sway bars review
#1
F Sport FRONT & REAR sway bars review
Instead of doing a regular long review, I will do it with questions/answers format. Without further ado, let's do this.
F Sport FRONT & REAR SWAY BARS COMBO questions:
1. Is the F Sport FRONT sway bar worth it if I already have the F Sport rear sway bar installed? Why?
YES! FOR SURE!!!!
3 main benefits:
A. You will experience and FEEL SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BODY ROLL. Specifically, in high way lane changing, almost no body roll is present. In tight corner or U-turn, you will feel a lot less body roll. Under heavy braking and cornering where all the weight is transferred to the front, the difference in body roll between front + rear vs. rear sway bar is VERY OBVIOUS right here.
B. STEERING becomes MUCH MORE NEUTRALIZED. You will experience less of fish-tail oversteering with the F Sport rear sway bar only.
C. The car is more BALANCED and PLANTED so you can enter and exit the corner at a higher speed which leads you faster lap times if you ever autocross/track. Before with just the F Sport rear sway bar only, the front still has some body roll especially under heavy braking where weight is transferred up front, the 2 outside tires stick more to the ground while the 2 inner tires has less traction due to the lift (which is due to body roll). That issue is solved once you add the F Sport front sway bar in to compliment with the F Sport rear sway bar.
2. Can I just upgrade with F Sport front sway bar only withOUT the rear?
NO! Unless you want to to have more understeering. You should have both front and rear upgrade or just the rear upgrade. Front only is plain dumb.
3. Are the F Sport sway bars the same for both RWD and AWD. How about different years?
NO! They are different in specs and part numbers. Please see the chart below. Regarding years, I believe 06-09 IS sway bars are different than 10-13 IS. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
F Sport REAR SWAY BAR ONLY questions:
1. What is one of the best bang for the buck handling upgrade to IS?
F Sport rear sway bar! IMO, it is the BEST upgrade for this car, a MUST HAVE if you ever care about handling.
2. What benefit do we have with F Sport rear sway bar only?
When you corner, you will experience SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BODY ROLL even on stock suspension. Not only is UNDERSTEERING SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED to almost none, you will also have SOME OVERSTEERING tendency. You can then powerfully spin the rear tires while turning with proper counter steering to power drift easily especially on the IS350. It is fun to do but power oversteer will tear up your rear tires and not a fast way around the track. It looks cool though.
3. How much handling improvement do you actually mean?
You CAN FEEL it. It is a day and night difference is what I mean when i used the word "significant".
4. Does the F Sport rear sway bar improve handling more on the IS350 or more on the IS250?
In my actual experience testing it on my IS250 2012 and IS350 2006, the improvement is EXACTLY the SAME! Also, the STOCK rear sway bar on both my cars are exactly the same, and the F SPORT rear sway bars are also exactly the same.
5. Follow up with (4), why did Lexus website show different stiffness improvement numbers for the rear sway bar on IS250 and IS350?
I don't know why but I think it is a typo or error because stock sway bars are the same and F Sport sway bars are also the same. I'm referring to rear wheel drive (RWD).
6. Any tips in installing this?
A difficult issue some members including me experience is the rear end links being stuck especially if your IS is in the older year. I bought a completely new end links for my IS350 06 from www.sewellparts.com
6. Is the F Sport rear sway bar the same on RWD and AWD?
NO. They are different in specs and have different part numbers. Please refer to the chart below made by CL member "flowrider" (Lou) long time ago.
F Sport FRONT & REAR SWAY BARS COMBO questions:
1. Is the F Sport FRONT sway bar worth it if I already have the F Sport rear sway bar installed? Why?
YES! FOR SURE!!!!
3 main benefits:
A. You will experience and FEEL SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BODY ROLL. Specifically, in high way lane changing, almost no body roll is present. In tight corner or U-turn, you will feel a lot less body roll. Under heavy braking and cornering where all the weight is transferred to the front, the difference in body roll between front + rear vs. rear sway bar is VERY OBVIOUS right here.
B. STEERING becomes MUCH MORE NEUTRALIZED. You will experience less of fish-tail oversteering with the F Sport rear sway bar only.
C. The car is more BALANCED and PLANTED so you can enter and exit the corner at a higher speed which leads you faster lap times if you ever autocross/track. Before with just the F Sport rear sway bar only, the front still has some body roll especially under heavy braking where weight is transferred up front, the 2 outside tires stick more to the ground while the 2 inner tires has less traction due to the lift (which is due to body roll). That issue is solved once you add the F Sport front sway bar in to compliment with the F Sport rear sway bar.
2. Can I just upgrade with F Sport front sway bar only withOUT the rear?
NO! Unless you want to to have more understeering. You should have both front and rear upgrade or just the rear upgrade. Front only is plain dumb.
3. Are the F Sport sway bars the same for both RWD and AWD. How about different years?
NO! They are different in specs and part numbers. Please see the chart below. Regarding years, I believe 06-09 IS sway bars are different than 10-13 IS. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
F Sport REAR SWAY BAR ONLY questions:
1. What is one of the best bang for the buck handling upgrade to IS?
F Sport rear sway bar! IMO, it is the BEST upgrade for this car, a MUST HAVE if you ever care about handling.
2. What benefit do we have with F Sport rear sway bar only?
When you corner, you will experience SIGNIFICANTLY LESS BODY ROLL even on stock suspension. Not only is UNDERSTEERING SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED to almost none, you will also have SOME OVERSTEERING tendency. You can then powerfully spin the rear tires while turning with proper counter steering to power drift easily especially on the IS350. It is fun to do but power oversteer will tear up your rear tires and not a fast way around the track. It looks cool though.
3. How much handling improvement do you actually mean?
You CAN FEEL it. It is a day and night difference is what I mean when i used the word "significant".
4. Does the F Sport rear sway bar improve handling more on the IS350 or more on the IS250?
In my actual experience testing it on my IS250 2012 and IS350 2006, the improvement is EXACTLY the SAME! Also, the STOCK rear sway bar on both my cars are exactly the same, and the F SPORT rear sway bars are also exactly the same.
5. Follow up with (4), why did Lexus website show different stiffness improvement numbers for the rear sway bar on IS250 and IS350?
I don't know why but I think it is a typo or error because stock sway bars are the same and F Sport sway bars are also the same. I'm referring to rear wheel drive (RWD).
6. Any tips in installing this?
A difficult issue some members including me experience is the rear end links being stuck especially if your IS is in the older year. I bought a completely new end links for my IS350 06 from www.sewellparts.com
6. Is the F Sport rear sway bar the same on RWD and AWD?
NO. They are different in specs and have different part numbers. Please refer to the chart below made by CL member "flowrider" (Lou) long time ago.
Last edited by FSportIS; 02-06-15 at 05:24 PM.
The following users liked this post:
TheUser (10-24-21)
Trending Topics
#11
Driver School Candidate
I have a 2013 IS350 AWD and finally completed the front and rear f-sport sway bar combination. I completed the rear a few months ago and finally got around to doing the front. It made a major difference installing the front for the better, but it was a monster install. Especially with only jackstands, be prepared, as it claimed a few knuckles and elicited a few not so nice words. They torqued the bajeezious out of all of those bolts. WD40 is your friend.
It was well worth the hassle though.
It was well worth the hassle though.
The following users liked this post:
TheUser (10-24-21)
#13
hi, you mentioned the chart has part #'s but I don't see them. I'm looking for the part number for '09 IS250 AWD F sport rear sway bar. great guide and info for a newbie btw.
thanks in advance
EDIT: i rephrased my question in the official F sport sway bar thread.
thanks in advance
EDIT: i rephrased my question in the official F sport sway bar thread.
Last edited by huyz13; 02-12-15 at 12:46 PM.