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Can anyone confirm the difference in the front suspension of the AWD vs RWD? I have AWD and want to know if I need a ball joint separator or not. Thanks.
Can anyone confirm the difference in the front suspension of the AWD vs RWD? I have AWD and want to know if I need a ball joint separator or not. Thanks.
My guess is that AWD cars can do without a ball joint separator. AWD suspension utilizes a "lower shock bracket" that is somewhat "C" shaped. Probably to go around the front axles since it's AWD and there are axles on all 4 corners as opposed to no axles up front for RWD. So...my guess, but you should be able to remove the bracket from the shock and the shock would probably be short enough to remove. The only reason to remove the ball joint or remove the upper A arms in the RWD model is because the shock is too long and the suspension geometry doesn't physically allow the shock to be removed without the additional clearance provided by disconnecting something and allowing the hub + lower arm to drop.
I found the pic below when searching. It says it's for the 2IS, but i know 3IS front suspension for AWD is similar because i remember seeing it when i was looking through the various repair manuals.
My guess is that AWD cars can do without a ball joint separator. AWD suspension utilizes a "lower shock bracket" that is somewhat "C" shaped. Probably to go around the front axles since it's AWD and there are axles on all 4 corners as opposed to no axles up front for RWD. So...my guess, but you should be able to remove the bracket from the shock and the shock would probably be short enough to remove. The only reason to remove the ball joint or remove the upper A arms in the RWD model is because the shock is too long and the suspension geometry doesn't physically allow the shock to be removed without the additional clearance provided by disconnecting something and allowing the hub + lower arm to drop.
I found the pic below when searching. It says it's for the 2IS, but i know 3IS front suspension for AWD is similar because i remember seeing it when i was looking through the various repair manuals.
Awesome, I appreciate it! I'll post an update when I get around to installing my springs.
In need of help!!!! What did you do with the AVS ???
Maybe you can be more specific?
Are you installing springs? If so, put the AVIS back on.
Are you installing coilovers? If so, unplug the units and keep them for a rainy day if you put the car back to stock.
Maybe you can be more specific?
Are you installing springs? If so, put the AVIS back on.
Are you installing coilovers? If so, unplug the units and keep them for a rainy day if you put the car back to stock.
so I have Bc coilovers full suspension and I've notice that I won't be able to put the AVS sensor back on for the front. I haven't check the back due to front not knowing what I should do, also heard that if you don't put the AVS sensor back on it will messed with the Sport Mode
Maybe you can be more specific?
Are you installing springs? If so, put the AVIS back on.
Are you installing coilovers? If so, unplug the units and keep them for a rainy day if you put the car back to stock.
so I have Bc coilovers full suspension and I've notice that I won't be able to put the AVS sensor back on for the front. I haven't check the back due to front not knowing what I should do, also heard that if you don't put the AVS sensor back on it will messed with the Sport Mode
so I have Bc coilovers full suspension and I've notice that I won't be able to put the AVS sensor back on for the front. I haven't check the back due to front not knowing what I should do, also heard that if you don't put the AVS sensor back on it will messed with the Sport Mode
I don't have first hand experience but members here have assured me leaving AVS unplugged does not have any negative effects. It will not cause any errors nor change how the car drives. It will simply no longer tighten your suspension when entering Sport+ mode. Considering your new coils will ride tighter than stock anyway it wont be missed.
This thread was great to get me started on my install. Just wanted to make a few points clear for all the AWD folks out there. For the front, you do not need to undo the sway bar link, nor do you need to touch the ball joint at all. Took me two hours less to do the second one after I realised this. You will need to make small adjustments to the strut orientation to get the small notch to line up with the notch on the C-shaped rod that links the strut to the control arm.
My guess is that AWD cars can do without a ball joint separator. AWD suspension utilizes a "lower shock bracket" that is somewhat "C" shaped. Probably to go around the front axles since it's AWD and there are axles on all 4 corners as opposed to no axles up front for RWD. So...my guess, but you should be able to remove the bracket from the shock and the shock would probably be short enough to remove. The only reason to remove the ball joint or remove the upper A arms in the RWD model is because the shock is too long and the suspension geometry doesn't physically allow the shock to be removed without the additional clearance provided by disconnecting something and allowing the hub + lower arm to drop.
I found the pic below when searching. It says it's for the 2IS, but i know 3IS front suspension for AWD is similar because i remember seeing it when i was looking through the various repair manuals.
Originally Posted by Tyrant32
This thread was great to get me started on my install. Just wanted to make a few points clear for all the AWD folks out there. For the front, you do not need to undo the sway bar link, nor do you need to touch the ball joint at all. Took me two hours less to do the second one after I realised this. You will need to make small adjustments to the strut orientation to get the small notch to line up with the notch on the C-shaped rod that links the strut to the control arm.
Awesoooooooommee!!! Thank you!!
Originally Posted by BayareaSac
In need of help!!!! What did you do with the AVS ???
No offense, please learn to edit your quotes and delete the pictures that don't apply to your post. Eliminates tons of scrolling. Just saying. Thanks.
09-04-16, 09:28 AM
Thanks.
