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Old 06-07-14, 10:24 AM
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Default Quick question about centric rings, wheels...

I just purchased a stock 1999 gs300. I plan on buying these MRR HR2 rims for $595:

http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/4471088126.html

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19" x 8.5", 5x114.3 Bolt Pattern, 66.6-74.1mm Hubs.

So just to be sure I would need centric rings that are 60.1/74.1 correct? Perhaps these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-Aluminum-HUB-CENTRIC-HUBCENTRIC-RING-RINGS-74-1mm-to-60-1mm-/231197240941?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3ALexus&hash=item35d46dee6d&vxp=mtr
I just want to make sure I have this right before I buy these wheels, and that these will fit correctly (Yes I am new to all of this so please bear with me, thank you). I don't want to deal with shakes or anything that would cause major issues.

Also it appears that all 4 of the wheels are 8.5 (not staggered). Is this going to look funny, or would I need spacers, different tire sizes for front and back?

I eventually plan on installing a set of nf210 springs to go with my new wheels in the future assuming I don't just save for coilovers (I thought DFs would be cool, but I have two girls in child seats, and I don't want to deal with rubbing- I don't need a major drop, just a sporty look, and I'd like to maintain a reasonably comfortable ride) .

Any help, suggestions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Old 06-08-14, 12:26 PM
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OK not receiving any feedback so I just went and purchased a variety of rings. One of them will work.

I'm still looking for feedback on whether or not I should use spacers on the rear wheels to "stagger". Is there any reason I should not do this? Is there a better solution?
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Hi, so the hub on the wheels should be either 66 or 74, it can't be both. If its 74, then the rings you picked out should work fine. Since the rings are metal make sure you use anti-seize. Our cars came non-staggered and our suspension was setup for that, staggered setups is purely for looks. I don't think it will look funny, but thats up to you and what you prefer. I would definitely go coilovers, it will save you alot of headaches down the road. Since your on a budget, I would go with megan ez streets. Goodluck on your project.
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I'm assuming the 66 74 deal has to do with the inner and outer diameters of his rings for the rims (he had them on a different car- I was just quoting what he had posted verbatim). Thank you for the help. I just ended up ordering plastic rings in the end.

Yeah I like the staggered look. I was just wondering using spacers was a way to achieve this since the rims themselves aren't a staggered set.

What headaches would I be potentially dealing with down the road from using aftermarket springs and shocks vs coilovers? Is it more of an issue of having to deal with alignments and replacing parts often? I don't plan on making constant changes to the vehicle once I get something in place.

The easy street coilovers look good. I don't need extensive options really. If that is all I would get from spending more money, I would probably just opt for these assuming they are solid quality parts. $700 is about what I would end up spending for a good set of coils and shocks as is.
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I've heard of plastic rings melting. You could possibly create the illusion of being staggered with spacers but I'm not sure. Coilovers give you the ability to fine tune the hight and dampening . Trust me most guys I know that went with a spring/ strut combo ended up getting coilovers. Megans are the best bang for your buck, me and my brother are running them, I have the lp's and he has the ez's. Ride quality is close to oem but you always have the option of making it softer or stiffer.
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I've never heard plastic rings melting. :O I wonder how they even could melt because there's no friction whatsoever between the rim, wheel hub and the ring. I have heard that metallic rings could get stuck to the rim.
I think majority of people favor the plastic rings, so do I.
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I went with plastic rings and they have not melted in the 3 years I've owned them living in the PNW.

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The rings didn't fit!? I think I'm going to have to buy 73/60.1 I have no idea why. Bought the size on the box?

Man I don't want to deal with shakes on the highway.
Old 06-17-14, 01:59 PM
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youre only going down a millimeter from what you orginally ordered.

why not measure it instead? what wheels? maybe you can find the sizing online
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Is the hub bore of the wheel not listed on the box? 90% of aftermarket wheels are usually 73.1 or 72.6 and i would bet so are the MRR wheels

The Lexus hub size is 60.1 so this will be the inside bore of the hub rings you're buying

To get an accurate measurement of the bore on the wheels a micrometer would be ideal. A hub ring should fit nice and snug in the wheel with absolutely no play or else it defeats the purpose

PS: there is absolutely nothing wrong with plastic hub rings. People have a fear of them melting but nobody can say they actually have melted. The hubs don't get hot. Also plastic don't seize on the hubs like aluminum ones do. If you insist on aluminum use never seize or bearing grease.
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