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Old 04-13-14, 02:08 PM
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Hello! So as the title says I need new inner tie rods. I've got horrible play and random veering in my steering wheel at all speeds. Just a few questions for everyone to have a look at...

- Which inner tie rods do you all recommend?
- What else should I consider replacing in the immediate area while doing this job? I'm going to have a Mercedes dealership garage at my disposal for a weekend night with some tech friends of mine so I'm thinking this may be a good time to replace anything else while I can. Any thoughts or recommendations?

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Old 04-13-14, 04:10 PM
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Get some Battle Version inner and outer tie rods. If you havent already replaced the bushings, replace the steering rack bushings.
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Okay so I've found the BV inner and outer tie rods. On their website they have solid aluminum rack mounts...are these what you're talking about? COMPLETELY new to these components. While I'm getting the inner tie rods done it would be a cool time to maybe mix it up. Any opinions?

I wouldn't mind a more solid steering feel...if that helps in directing me in my research.

edit: I can't find the Daizen bushings kit anymore...I know those have not been done on my car so I am looking for those now. What are these??? "Solid Aluminum Rack Mounts"?? They're at the very bottom of the SC300/400 page of battle version.

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rack mounts are just the steering rack bushings. if you look under the car from the front of the car, I think you'll see 2 big bolts holding the rack onto the front crossmember. On one side (pass side?) is a band-type bushing which the bver kit doesn't replace, but the other side has 2 bolts (one is hiding inside the crossmember that can be accessed from under) that go through the bushings you'd replace with the aluminum mounts. I also may very well be making all this up since it's been a while since I did mine so please don't fork me to death for lying.

They do tighten up the feel but i've also heard the lack of play may result in vibrations at speed. I do believe there are daizen alternatives if you want to go the polyurethane route but I'd really just check your rack w/ a prybar to see if it actually needs new bushings. It's not a difficult process so you can probably do it anytime.

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Originally Posted by ashtray
can't find the Daizen bushings kit anymore...I know those have not been done on my car so I am looking for those now. What are these??? "Solid Aluminum Rack Mounts"?? They're at the very bottom of the SC300/400 page of battle version.
I bought my steering rack bushing kit off ebay. I believe the company for the bushings were called ricochet. I would offer up my old ones, since I bought a used rack with bushing already, but it has 2 yrs of driving on it plus I have a power steering leak.
Old 04-16-14, 09:33 AM
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If you have an inch or more of play in your wheel its def the rack bushings. I have replaced them on almost all of the SC's I have ever owned with the poly ones, if they are not available I would just go with the aluminum ones but not sure what negatives of steering feel there will be. generally the less the rack moves the better for handling.

Rack bushings - Lower control arms/bushings - shock mounts. These all tend to wear out with age pretty consistently.
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Is your steering rack leaking or are any of the boots torn? If so I would consider replacing the entire steering rack with a remanufactured unit. It'll come with new rack rubber rack bushings and inner tie rods.

For poly steering rack bushings your options are Super Pro (sold by figs engineering) or whiteline. Daizen has been out of business for a while now.
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It does have about an inch of play in it. It is NOT leaking so thats good. What boots are you talking about being torn? I have coil overs.
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what is the conclusion about causing vibrations at speed?
I need to replace my bushings and am between the aluminum and poly
sorry to thread jack, but it makes more sense to ask here than start a new thread
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Originally Posted by ashtray
It does have about an inch of play in it. It is NOT leaking so thats good. What boots are you talking about being torn? I have coil overs.
He means the boots on the steering rack. Steering rack having play.....someone else should chime in, but to me that just sounds like you didn't secure the steering wheel when trying that 😉
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I have not tried anything so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "sounds like you didn't secure the steering wheel when trying that"

edit: I will check the boots though but there has not been a single drop of anything under any of my parking spots.
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Originally Posted by ashtray
I have not tried anything so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "sounds like you didn't secure the steering wheel when trying that"

edit: I will check the boots though but there has not been a single drop of anything under any of my parking spots.
ie the rack has "play" because the steering wheel is moving when you move it. Like how you turn the steering wheel to turn the wheels, but the other way around.
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I kind of get what you're saying. Still deciding on what exactly I need. I know for sure the inners need changing. Other than that I'm up in the air as to what else to get.
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I say if everything is good and no leaks or play just replace the inner tie rods along with new rubber boots

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Old 04-27-14, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ashtray
I have not tried anything so I'm not sure what you're talking about when you say "sounds like you didn't secure the steering wheel when trying that"

edit: I will check the boots though but there has not been a single drop of anything under any of my parking spots.
I was referring to the boots that cover the inner tie rods. When the steering rack gets old the seal can go bad and leak inside of the boot. It doesn't necessarily leak on to the ground. If there is fluid inside of your steering rack boots I would recommend replacing the entire unit with a remanufactured one.
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