Go Back   Club Lexus Forums > Lexus Model Forums > GS Models > GS - Second Generation > Suspension and Brakes
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?

Suspension Noise (Already replaced the balljoint)

Reply
 
 
 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 10-05-13, 06:58 PM   #1
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Exclamation Suspension Noise (Already replaced the balljoint)

So i replaced my lower ball joints today, and i replaced my upper control arm a few months ago. After replacing the ball joint, the noise sort of stopped, but as the day went on the noise has gotten louder. Not on turns at all, but mostly when i accelerate from a stop. For example ill brake, then once i let go of the break i hear a clunk/ click noise. Its not all the time though. I sprayed everything with grease and that didn't help, I then got out of the car and started pulling and pushing (back and forth) the upper control arm where it connects to the vertical arm? the spot right above the top of the tire, and i can hear the clunk noise. I searched, but couldn't really find anything. Could this just be a loose bolt? or am i going to have to replace the upper control arm again? It doesn't make noise while driving unless i hit a big bump in the road, like a big pot hole, and its a clunk/hollow sounding noise. The car only has 80k on it and is a 2002. Any help would be great.
This ad is not displayed to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on Club Lexus!
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-13, 07:16 PM   #2
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

Searched somemore, i think it might be the caster arm? bushing...****
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-13, 08:11 AM   #3
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

So i checked the lug nuts, they are tight, checked the sway bar bolts, they are tight. Pads and brakes seem and look to be functioning fine. Are the radius arm and caster arm the same thing? I'm bringing to the lexus dealer on tuesday and want to at least have an idea of what is going on before i go there. Any help id appreciate.
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-13, 07:03 PM   #4
RikTT
Pole Position
Trader Score: (1)
 
RikTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 374
Default

Can very well be the caster arm bushing aka lower control arm # 2 or recheck the upper arms. Have a look under & see if you see any fractures/ worn or fatigued caster bushing at least. Did you do an alignment after the front end work ?
__________________
MK4 6 SPD X 2 - Black APU SP71 Fuel CCW LM5 Brembo 6/4 HKS HM3 4"Ti - Nenni Tunned / Alpine BPU++ Greddy 4" N1PE2 ///
SC/GTE (5 SPD Orig) - BL6x 4"DP/MP MC built R154 APEXI duals SSR 19's Custom Stance SS coils
2GS DD - SD Tanabe Touring Ex 19's BC/Swift coils FIGS
RikTT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-13, 07:32 PM   #5
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

I went ahead and bought the caster arm for $154 dollars. I did get an alignment after the balljoint and upper control arm. I cant really get underneath the car to fully see the caster arm bushing, but i sprayed it with white grease to see if it helps any (assuming thats actually the noise). Everything else looked fine. I have to be in Cleveland by Friday, assuming it is the caster arm, about how much will the dealer charge me to change it? (rough estimate).
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-13, 05:57 AM   #6
Lexicious
Rookie
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: WA
Posts: 62
Default

Yes caster arm it essentially holds your suspension from shifting back and forth since lower control arm is 1 bar not an 'A' arm like most
Lexicious is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-13, 05:02 PM   #7
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

How long can i drive with a bad caster arm? The vibration of the wheel at 65 isn't bad at all, i just need to wait till the part comes in.
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-13, 05:52 PM   #8
RikTT
Pole Position
Trader Score: (1)
 
RikTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: NY
Posts: 374
Default

If you're not comfortable in changing the arm by yourself, which is relatively easy, a local mechanic can do it in under .5 hr or 1hr, if that & assuming you got replacement arms for a direct swap. 3 bolts per arm. Dealer would rape. I'd say like $75 local?

You can drive on it but would just do its thing, vibrate.
__________________
MK4 6 SPD X 2 - Black APU SP71 Fuel CCW LM5 Brembo 6/4 HKS HM3 4"Ti - Nenni Tunned / Alpine BPU++ Greddy 4" N1PE2 ///
SC/GTE (5 SPD Orig) - BL6x 4"DP/MP MC built R154 APEXI duals SSR 19's Custom Stance SS coils
2GS DD - SD Tanabe Touring Ex 19's BC/Swift coils FIGS
RikTT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-13, 06:53 PM   #9
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

If its less than like 500 ill just go to the dealer, i don't care, i just need it done by Friday. If not can i drive to Cleveland from Buffalo on it , Abour 2.5 hour drive
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-13, 07:43 PM   #10
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

So the dealer looked at it, they said the bushing looked worn, but it seemed ok. Im starting to think it could be the caliper. That wheel always has more brake dust than any of the others and they are all factory pads. It brakes normally, but pulls a little bit to that side. That and the noise isn't constant, when i first start driving in the morning its non existent, but after 4 or 5 times pressing the pedal, theres a clunk. The thing is it clunks also when turning from time to time or hitting a big bump. The dealer said the bushing is "ok" so if its not that, does that leave the caliper, (strut/strut mount) which i doubt because its not constant, and potentially the tie rod? I was thinknig maybe even the motor mounts, but there is zero vibration in the wheel at idle or while driving
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-13, 02:39 AM   #11
Toysled
Rookie
Trader Score: (0)
 
Toysled's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: North & West of Baja California
Posts: 63
Default

Check the 2 UCA bolts. I installed Megan adjustable UCAs and somehow one of the two bolts on the passenger side had become loose causing the same clunking noise like something was loose from the front end.
__________________
My ALBUMS
Toysled is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-13, 08:58 AM   #12
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

Will do thanks. This morning was pretty cold at 40 out and the noise was close to non existent, not sure if the temp is playing a role, but just something I observed.
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-13, 09:10 AM   #13
AKS14
Driver
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 161
Default

If you are pushing on the wheel and having it clunk near the top its possible the ball joint was not tightened all the way?
__________________
99 GS300 - BC Coilovers, Figs Toe Arms, Varrstoen ES 3.3.2 hyper black chrome, DEPO LED Tails
93.5 Supra TT - Future Garage Queen
96 240sx - Money pit
AKS14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-13, 09:47 AM   #14
FrankT
Lead Lap
Trader Score: (0)
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cedar Park, Texas
Posts: 644
Default

I haven't seen you mention sway bar end link(s)...

There is a definite load shift in the front when you brake, even if its slight braking and the end links will move. Worn links tend to pop on occasion when they move.
__________________

1998 GS300 210k; white for the wife- Bone stock.
1998 GS400 240k; black for me. BC Racing BR series Coilovers 10k/8k, Daizen control arm bushings.
1991 FJ80 235k; lifted and bumper-ed, ready for expedition.
FrankT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-13, 01:36 PM   #15
02SDGS
Lexus Champion
Trader Score: (0)
 
02SDGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ny
Posts: 4,632
Default

No clunks when pushing down, ill check the endlinks again, but they seemed fin.....in other news, have gothen the lead on a 2003 white on saddle sd gs300, so well see if anything comes of that haha. Bought a tl to replace my old Es, didn't like it and returned it so we will see
02SDGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-13, 01:36 PM
 
 
 
 
Reply

Tags
ball, joint, noise

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
suspension noises mball19 Suspension and Brakes 1 04-18-13 04:39 PM
Upper Control Arm Ball Joints E36M3 LS400 3 11-03-12 11:01 AM
Confirmation from searches before starting suspension teardown.... nismofreak GS - Second Generation 5 10-26-12 06:37 AM
Suspension noises gone amichie Suspension and Brakes 3 10-17-12 02:57 AM
Front suspension feels loose and makes soft clunking noise e-man Suspension and Brakes 11 10-24-09 11:14 PM

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:16 PM.

Join ClubLexus
Advertising


Copyright © 2000-2008 Internet Brands, Inc. All Rights Reserved
Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Terms of Use | JOBS


Get all contact info