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Old 04-07-13, 09:19 AM
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Exclamation HELP. very bad alignment after lowering h&R

hey,

I just lowered my 06 is350 via H&R springs by myself , and after i lowered it i decided to do the alignment.

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what should i do??????

the camber is the problem and why its with only one side?

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Old 04-07-13, 03:32 PM
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It seem like they didn't do anything. You should be able to adjust the toe but not camber. I would take it to another place.
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Where in PA are you?

R/T tuning in Lansdale is familiar with lowered cars and can most likely help you get the toe in spec which is more important when it comes to eating tires prematuring
Old 04-07-13, 04:16 PM
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yea you definetly need an alignment for the toe but your gonna have to wait for them to settle if you just installed them
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Originally Posted by sgmbab
It seem like they didn't do anything. You should be able to adjust the toe but not camber. I would take it to another place.
aha, I will go to another place ASAP

Thanx

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Where in PA are you?

R/T tuning in Lansdale is familiar with lowered cars and can most likely help you get the toe in spec which is more important when it comes to eating tires prematuring

im in Wilkes-Barre,PA in Luzerne county and Lansdale is about 90 mi

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yea you definetly need an alignment for the toe but your gonna have to wait for them to settle if you just installed them
I have them now for 2 weeks. ill try to get the toe at least

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this morning I took off the wheel and i noticed that the shock is not 100% in the correct place





the shock is not parallel with the bult. i dont know if that could be the problem?
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Shock not parallel means it can have worn bushing. But it doesn't have anything to do with inconsistent camber. If these shock are original from 06, chances are that they might be worn out already. First you can check the ride height difference between left and right side. From the alignment reading, your left side must be somewhat lower than your right side. Although this is normal for lowering spring but the difference should not be very significant. If so, you may need to take the shock out and test if any of them are worn out. Also, make sure that spring and shock are assembled in the correct way and all rubber insulators are in place, springs and strut's top hats are aligned on the right orientation and everything.
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Originally Posted by SCWB
Shock not parallel means it can have worn bushing. But it doesn't have anything to do with inconsistent camber. If these shock are original from 06, chances are that they might be worn out already. First you can check the ride height difference between left and right side. From the alignment reading, your left side must be somewhat lower than your right side. Although this is normal for lowering spring but the difference should not be very significant. If so, you may need to take the shock out and test if any of them are worn out. Also, make sure that spring and shock are assembled in the correct way and all rubber insulators are in place, springs and strut's top hats are aligned on the right orientation and everything.
the shocks work very well by car has 51000 mi now. I'll try to fix the shock position and change the bushing if i have to.
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I don't know what to do for the camber problem???? how can i fix it???
Old 04-08-13, 01:36 PM
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Honestly, you shouldn't be having such issues with only springs. Besides the bolts holding the shock itself in place, what other bolts or components did you loosen/remove?
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Normally you'd adjust the rear camber first, then the rear toe. After that you'd move on to the front and do the caster & camber, and then the toe. The IS32/350's only have adjustments for the toe (F/R). If you'd added some components you may have added more suspension adjustability as well.

The front of your car has lots of negative camber and should be pulling to the left. The rear of your car has positive toe, and a positive thrust angle, and should pull to the right.

The alignment should have been checked before the car was worked on to see if anything was out of whack. Am A4 certified mechanic should have check the condition of the bearing and bushings while they were under the car. You may have one of those parts that has failed and is preventing the car from being set up correctly.

I'd make sure that I had the parts that make the suspension adjustable, but I'd check for existing bent parts too.
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I'm just starting to look at springs or coil-overs and maybe swaybars. From what I've read, the H&Rs are 1.4F and 1.3R. Is there enough adjustment in the suspension to get back in spec, or will caster/camber plates/bolts be needed?
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Originally Posted by 2008GT500
I'm just starting to look at springs or coil-overs and maybe swaybars. From what I've read, the H&Rs are 1.4F and 1.3R. Is there enough adjustment in the suspension to get back in spec, or will caster/camber plates/bolts be needed?
I'm not sure if the camber will be "in spec" but it should not be bad enough that you need to purchase camber arms or adjustable ball joints... I know many members on here who are running 0 gap or even slightly tucking with coils and do not have adjustable camber and don't have issues. The toe-in is what causes the majority of the pre-mature wear on the tires... have the toe set as close to 0 as possible.
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Originally Posted by zmcgovern4
I'm not sure if the camber will be "in spec" but it should not be bad enough that you need to purchase camber arms or adjustable ball joints... I know many members on here who are running 0 gap or even slightly tucking with coils and do not have adjustable camber and don't have issues. The toe-in is what causes the majority of the pre-mature wear on the tires... have the toe set as close to 0 as possible.
so changing camber is not usual with h&r springs and the camber problem is only with one side.
is that mean that i may have done something wrong when i was installing 'em?
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Hard telling... as suggested, I would take the car to another place to have the alignment done.
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I noticed that the left front is lower that the right front about 0.5 inch.
and the rear tires are even.
is that could be the problem?
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Originally Posted by MUDHAR
so changing camber is not usual with h&r springs and the camber problem is only with one side.
is that mean that i may have done something wrong when i was installing 'em?
I have the H&Rs on an 06 is250 awd. The camber for my left side is not in spec, but the tech said as long as toe is 0 and within spec you'll generally be fine. I can a picture of my alignment if you'd like.


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