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Old 11-03-10, 09:50 PM
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This is good information to know. I am planning to do the Supra LCA swap in a few months. Would it be correct to assume that Daizen or CarsonTuned SC bushings fit in Supra LCA's?
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Originally Posted by roundeye
This is good information to know. I am planning to do the Supra LCA swap in a few months. Would it be correct to assume that Daizen or CarsonTuned SC bushings fit in Supra LCA's?
WHAT info are you referring to?

I hope you don't plan on buying new Supra LCA's and then immediately press the bushings out because you think they won't fit properly, because that's totally incorrect information. PLEASE....ask around, it's a no-brainer. I can't explain what quirk of circumstances conspired in Texan_176's situation, but I can assure you, they DO fit, and they DO work great. Certainly, the poly bushings will provide a firmer feel, but it's not like brand new rubber bushing are anything to apologize for unless you're planning on tracking your car or something.
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I read somewhere ball joints are made by MOOG. These are all the BJ they make? How do we know which one is for an S400?
Moog Ball Joint Sizes
Ball O/Ctr Shank Narrow Wide Taper Stud Part Sine A Atan Stud Taper
to shank Thread Pitch Type Config Dia. Dia. Height Thread Pitch Number
end dist.
4.00 0.687 18R Male Straight 0.536 0.623 0.696 1/2 20 ES2202RL 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.00 0.687 18R Male Straight 0.556 ES314RL
4.00 0.625 18L Male Straight 0.516 0.613 0.776 7/16 20 ES323L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.00 0.625 18R Male Straight 0.516 0.613 0.776 7/16 20 ES323R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.00 0.687 18L Male Straight 0.568 0.626 0.464 1/2 20 ES344L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.00 0.687 18R Male Straight 0.568 0.623 0.44 1/2 20 ES344R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.00 0.625 18L Male Straight 0.568 0.544 1/2 20 ES351RL
4.00 0.687 18R Male Straight 0.543 0.626 0.664 1/2 20 ES354R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.00 0.625 18L Male Straight 0.489 0.544 1/2 20 ES368RL
4.00 0.687 18L Male Straight 0.556 ES369RL
4.00 0.625 18R Male Straight 0.554 ES379RL
4.00 0.75 18L Male Straight 0.558 ES383R
4.00 0.875 18L Male Straight 0.612 0.703 0.728 9/16 18 ES454L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.10 M14 1.5R Male Straight EV153
4.12 1.00 18R Male Straight 0.675 0.776 0.808 5/8 18 ES2011R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.20 M16 1.5L Male Straight 0.52 0.6 0.64 M12 1.25 ES2342S 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.20 M16 1.5L Male Straight 0.581 ES2057RL
4.31 M14 1.5R Male Straight 0.424 ES2734
4.33 M20 1.5L Male Straight 0.554 0.623 0.552 1/2 20 ES2222L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.33 M22 1.5L Male Straight 0.554 0.623 0.552 1/2 20 ES2322L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.37 M14 1.5R Male Straight 0.539 M12 1.75 ES2247RL 0
4.41 .687 18L Male Straight 0.543 0.626 0.664 1/2 20 ES2221L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.41 .687 18R Male Straight 0.543 0.626 0.664 1/2 20 ES2223R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.41 .687 18L Male Straight 0.554 ES397RL
4.41 M12 1.25L Male Straight EV212
4.44 .875 18R Male Straight 0.664 0.773 0.872 5/8 18 ES2082R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.44 .875 18L Male Straight 0.664 0.773 0.872 5/8 18 ES2083L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.45 M22 1.5R Male Straight 0.613 0.703 0.72 M14 1.50 ES2615R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.45 1.00 16L Male Straight 0.78 0.773 3/4 16 ES373L
4.45 1.00 16R Male Straight 0.78 0.899 0.928 3/4 16 ES373R 0.064116 3.668576 7.337153
4.53 .687 18L Male Straight 0.509 0.593 0.672 M12 1.25 ES2072R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.618 M14 1.5R Male Straight M12 1.25 EV283
4.62 .625 18R Male Straight 0.516 ES348R
4.68 .625 18L Male Straight 0.516 ES348L
4.75 1.0 18L Male Straight 0.662 0.775 ES2064L
4.8 1.0 18R Male Straight 0.594 0.703 ES448R
4.81 .875 18R Male Straight 0.675 0.776 0.808 9/16 18 ES2234R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.88 1.125 12L Male Straight 0.967 1.102 1.08 9/16 18 ES187L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.88 1.125 12R Male Straight 0.967 1.102 1.08 5/8 18 ES187R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.88 1.125 12R Male Straight 0.896 1.03 1.072 7/8 14 ES2069R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.88 1.125 12L Male Straight 0.896 1.03 1.072 7/8 14 ES2070L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.88 1.125 16R Male Straight 0.967 1.072 3/4 16 ES2118L 0
4.88 .687 18R Male Straight 0.543 1.072 3/4 16 ES361R 0
4.88 1.125 12L Male Straight 0.896 1.03 1.072 3/4 16 ES405L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.88 1.125 12R Male Straight 0.896 1.03 1.072 3/4 16 ES405R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.92 M14 1.5L Male Straight 0.4152 ES2902L 0
4.92 1.0 18R Male Straight 0.675 ES377R 0
4.92 .875 18R Male Straight 0.615 ES398R 0
4.928 M14 1.5R Male Straight EV154 0
4.93 M22 1.5L Male Straight 0.554 0.623 1/2 20 ES2322L 0
4.95 1.0 16L Male Straight 0.783 0.905 0.976 3/4 16 ES2061L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
4.95 1.0 16L Male Straight 0.783 ES2062L 0
4.95 1.0 16R Male Straight 0.783 0.899 0.976 3/4 16 ES2062R 0.059426 3.400873 6.801745
5 .875 18L Male Straight 0.662 0.776 0.912 9/16 18 ES2063L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.16 .687 18R Male Straight 0.621 0.703 0.656 9/16 18 ES2120R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.16 .687 18L Male Straight 0.621 0.703 0.656 9/16 18 ES2121L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.2 1.0 18R Male Straight 6.13 0.703 0.728 9/16 18 ES391R 0
5.21 3687 18L Straight 0.507 M12 1.25 ES359L 0
5.31 M16 1.5R Male Straight 0.531 0.6 0.552 M12 1.25 ES2040L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.31 M16 1.5L Male Straight 0.531 0.6 0.552 M10 1.5 ES2041L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.31 M14 1.5L Male Straight 0.496 0.566 M14 1.5 ES3145L 0
5.36 1.0 18R Male Straight 0.613 0.703 0.72 M14 1.5 ES2392L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.36 1.0 18R Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES2396R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.36 1.0 18R Male Straight 0.613 0.703 0.72 M14 1.5 ES2914R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 M22 1.5R Male Straight 0.594 0.708 0.912 M14 1.5 ES2077R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 M20 1.5L Male Straight 0.594 M14 1.5 ES2078L 0
5.37 M22 1.5R Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES2112R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 M22 1.5L Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES3203L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 M20 1.5L Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES2213L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 M22 1.5R Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES2214R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 M20 1.5L Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES2215L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 .875 18R Male Straight 0.594 0.703 0.872 M14 1.5 ES2913L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.37 1.0 18 Straight 0.613 0.723 M14 1.5 ES3009R
5.414 M14 1.0R Male Straight M14 1.5 EV172
5.44 1.125 14R Straight 0.973 ES2613L
5.44 1.125 12R Straight 0.973 ES2614R
5.44 1.125 12L Male Straight 0.967 1.107 1.12 7/8 14 ES423L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.44 1.125 12R Male Straight 0.967 1.107 1.12 7/8 14 ES423R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.5 M14 1.5R Male Straight M14 1.5 EV168
5.51 M14 1.5L Straight 0.4252 ES421L
5.51 M14 1.5L Straight 0.496 ES422L
5.56 .875 18L Male Straight 0.612 0.703 0.728 9/16 18 ES380L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.56 .875 18R Straight 0.612 0.703 0.728 9/16 18 ES380R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.709 M14 1.5R Straight 0.506 ES2008L
5.75 1.25 12R Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES2040R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.25 12L Straight 1.08 ES2041L
5.75 1.25 12R Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES2113R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.25 12R Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES2114R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.25 12R Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES2115R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.25 12L Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES2116L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.25 16R Straight 1.08 ES2207R
5.75 1.25 16L Straight 1.08 ES2208R
5.75 1.25 12L Male Straight 1.117 ES2224L
5.75 .8125 16L Straight 0.575 ES331L
5.75 .8125 16R Straight 0.575 E331R
5.75 1.25 12R Straight 1.08 ES346L
5.75 1.25 12L Straight 1.08 ES346R
5.75 1.25 12L Straight 1.08 ES376L
5.75 1.25 12R Straight 1.08 ES376R
5.75 1.25 18R Male Straight 1.36 7/8 14 ES3032R
5.75 .625 18R Straight 0.516 ES381RL
5.75 .687 18R Straight 0.452 ES404RL
5.75 .625 18R Straight 0.452 ES425RL
5.75 1.25 12R Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES431L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.25 12L Male Straight 1.08 1.25 1.36 7/8 14 ES431R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.75 1.125 12L Male Straight 1.117 ES434L
5.86 1.0 16L Male Straight 0.783 0.905 0.976 3/4 16 ES2035L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.86 1.0 16R Male Straight 0.783 0.905 0.976 3/4 16 ES2036R 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.86 1.0 18L Male Straight 0.78 0.876 0.768 5/8 18 ES330L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
5.86 1.0 16R Male Straight 0.78 0.876 0.784 5/8 18 ES330R 0.061224 3.503532 7.007063
5.88 1.0 18L Male Straight 0.675 0.771 0.768 5/8 18 ES2007L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
6.06 M14 1.5R Male Straight M16 1.0 EV162
6.3 M16 1.5L Male Straight 0.525 M12 1.25 ES3116
6.3 M16 1.5R Male Straight 0.525 M12 1.25 ES3117
6.34 .875 18L Male Straight 0.715 0.795 0.64 5/8 18 ES2027L 0.0625 3.576334 7.152669
6.34 M14 1.5R Male Straight M14 1.50 EV165
Spitfire upper BJ 0.56 0.625 0.522 0.062261 3.562667 7.125335
Celica BJ 0.578 0.649 0.589 0.060272 3.449138 6.898277
Ford Taurus BJ 0.625 0.706 0.664 0.060994 3.490373 6.980747
Celica tie rod end 0.51 0.555 0.51 0.044118 2.526117 5.052234
Toy HiAce upper BJ (early) 0.6 0.665 0.515 0.063107 3.610965 7.221929
Toy HiAce lower BJ (early) 0.665 0.745 0.635 0.062992 3.604421 7.208841
Old 06-29-13, 04:56 PM
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bumpping this thread, because??? has anyone decoded which ball joint would fit our lca??
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^^ Free bump
Old 11-13-15, 11:45 AM
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Bumping for ball joints. Help?
Old 11-14-15, 05:01 AM
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Default I think you are just going to have to give up on replaceable ball joints

It can be done possibly, and if someone figures it out good for them. However, as of right now I have yet to see a post on here anywhere from anyone who has done this successfully. Most are like me and just go ahead and buy the Supra arms to get new ball joints. At the present time they are in the $270 range online, so you have to figure out if it's worth the battle to try to find a ball joint and assure it fits and is safe when installed. If you figure the cost of bushings and the cost of said ball joint and the time involved, I can't see it savings more than $100 but I could be wrong. Maybe somebody will figure it out.

Looking back through these threads it's troubling when someone comes on and gives misinformation like the poster did a few years ago and said the parts are not interchangeable. They are. The reason they have different part numbers is because the rubber bushings are slightly different. The Supra arm has a solid rubber bushing, the SC arm has a void on two sides which I assume gives it a softer ride. In my opinion after having run them, I can't tell much difference but maybe someone with a higher sensitivity might be able to but it is very subtle if any.
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