Creaking / squeeking noise from rear. Did a search, but didn't find all the answers..
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Creaking / squeeking noise from rear. Did a search, but didn't find all the answers..
I will try to describe this to the best of my ability to get some help in the easiest way possible. I have a 1995 SC400 with nearly 210,000 miles on it. I can't really make any complaints about it, especially given the miles. However, this latest problem is driving me up the friggin wall! A few months ago, after a night of driving through some pretty heavy rain, I noticed a creaking / squeeking noise coming from my passenger rear wheel. It almost sounded like loose lugs, so I went to tighten them, only to find they were already pretty snug. I just decided to drive it a little more and see what happened. I have another car, so I wasn't driving this one ALL the time, but when I went to drive it a few days ago, I noticed a LOUDER version of the creaking noise and what almost sounded like bad brake pads. I looked at the front and rear pads and didn't really see a LOT of wear but noticed that the passenger front pads weren't wearing evenly. That led to me having to replace the caliper pins as one had locked up, causing the pad to wear unevenly. Well, then I went to the rear of the car and saw that the brakes seemed fine, but noticed a LOT of play in the rear passenger wheel when I had it off the ground. I compared it with the driver's side which has NONE and knew something was wrong. I removed the wheel and found that the nut that holds the axle in the hub was so loose, I could turn it with my hand! I removed the cotter pin, tightened the nut, reinstalled the wheel and went for a drive. The sounds was all gone! Everything sounded as it should... for about a minute. Then the creaking came back... and got louder... and louder... to where it was almost a constant loud squeal! Whenever I turn to the right, the sound goes away. Whenever I turn to the left, it stays the same or gets louder. Now, from what I've been reading, this sounds like a wheel bearing problem, correct? If that is the case, does it sound like it's beyond the point of salvaging the hub, or should I wait til I tear it all apart to see if the hub has been damaged? Also, if water can "wash" all the grease from the hub (at least that's what it seems like happened to it) then is it possible to service / regrease the bearings? I thought sure they were sealed but I'm not sure anymore. ANY input on this situation would be greatly appreciated and any questions will be answered as quickly as I can. Thanks in advance.
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I will try to describe this to the best of my ability to get some help in the easiest way possible. I have a 1995 SC400 with nearly 210,000 miles on it. I can't really make any complaints about it, especially given the miles. However, this latest problem is driving me up the friggin wall! A few months ago, after a night of driving through some pretty heavy rain, I noticed a creaking / squeeking noise coming from my passenger rear wheel. It almost sounded like loose lugs, so I went to tighten them, only to find they were already pretty snug. I just decided to drive it a little more and see what happened. I have another car, so I wasn't driving this one ALL the time, but when I went to drive it a few days ago, I noticed a LOUDER version of the creaking noise and what almost sounded like bad brake pads. I looked at the front and rear pads and didn't really see a LOT of wear but noticed that the passenger front pads weren't wearing evenly. That led to me having to replace the caliper pins as one had locked up, causing the pad to wear unevenly. Well, then I went to the rear of the car and saw that the brakes seemed fine, but noticed a LOT of play in the rear passenger wheel when I had it off the ground. I compared it with the driver's side which has NONE and knew something was wrong. I removed the wheel and found that the nut that holds the axle in the hub was so loose, I could turn it with my hand! I removed the cotter pin, tightened the nut, reinstalled the wheel and went for a drive. The sounds was all gone! Everything sounded as it should... for about a minute. Then the creaking came back... and got louder... and louder... to where it was almost a constant loud squeal! Whenever I turn to the right, the sound goes away. Whenever I turn to the left, it stays the same or gets louder. Now, from what I've been reading, this sounds like a wheel bearing problem, correct? If that is the case, does it sound like it's beyond the point of salvaging the hub, or should I wait til I tear it all apart to see if the hub has been damaged? Also, if water can "wash" all the grease from the hub (at least that's what it seems like happened to it) then is it possible to service / regrease the bearings? I thought sure they were sealed but I'm not sure anymore. ANY input on this situation would be greatly appreciated and any questions will be answered as quickly as I can. Thanks in advance.
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I don't believe a properly lubed and installed wheel bearing just gets it's grease "washed away" by driving in some heavy rain water. More likely, over time, the grease was overheated and lost it's viscosity and deteriorated/dissipated as the bearing became loose (either from a failure or from lack of maintenance). I'm not that familiar with the rear axle arrangement in the sc4's, isn't there an inner cv joint(or two) involved as well? Check that boot/s for damage and leakage as well though. I don't see any harm in pulling it apart and having a look at the wheel bearing, if the only bearings involved are the 'fully contained' (bearing and race assembly together) bearings, then you may just need to pop them out, clean up the seats, and press in/on a new one.
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All subframe bolts seem to be in order. The noise has turned into more of a grinding / metal to metal squealing sound when rolling and it DOES go away once weight transfers to the driver's side (right turn) so I'm thinking it's the bearing. Sucks.
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Well, I just pulled the right rear axle carrier off, and the inner cover of the bearing literally FELL OFF as I removed it from the car. I found very little grease along with metal filings inside the bearing as well as a worn down hub. So that was definitely the problem. Which brings up another question out of hope for convenience. Aside from the Supra, does the SC300 / 400 share it's hub with any other vehicles? GS or LS perhaps? Thanks in advance.
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If you're referring to this - https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sus...ing-noise.html that's not what was wrong with my car. It was the wheel bearing.
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Sorry to gear.I'm encountering the same thing.Still am until I figure out how to get the upper arm bolt out or replace the whole arm,the only thing we couldn't get off even with an hour of hitting it with a hammerI know it's hub/bearing my hub nut was loose loose.Anywho ask Aliga he quoted me I think $150 shipped for the hub and i think axle ijcluded too.I have a local Lexus parts place that I can pick one up used for about 75-100$.just look around.