Corner weighed the GS yesterday
02-18-10, 07:05 PM
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Corner weighed the GS yesterday
I put coilovers on the other day...and the scales were right there, so I put it on just to see.
1999 GS4
complete weight car minus spare w/t and jack
1/4 tank fuel
stock 17s
H&R coilovers
Exact front and rear RCA
At the same time I installed new 2005 model caster arms, Daizen control arm and steering rack bushings. New lower balljoints, inner and outer tie rod ends. I did not replace the new bushings in the caster arms with the Daizen pieces, I'll leave them for when the stockers start to wear again.
I set my OCD aside because its my DD and I would rather have the car look just right, ride height wise and as long as the cross weights were close, rather than adjust to a perfect 50.0 so the front fender to the base of the wheel, not the tire, is 22.5, the rear is 23.0.
Weight with me: 3866, w/o me: 3695.
LF: 1088____RF: 1062
LR: 900____RR: 816
Close enough, but I like it!
Alignment:
Camber
F: -1.6
R: -.06
Caster
7.5,7.7
Toe
F: .05
R: 0
The driver's side was -1.9 and the passenger's side was -1.2 a little more tweaking and then ultimately loosening the subframe to move it over some and we got -1.6 on both. I would've preferred less negative camber on the front but that is as good as it gets at this height.
1999 GS4
complete weight car minus spare w/t and jack
1/4 tank fuel
stock 17s
H&R coilovers
Exact front and rear RCA
At the same time I installed new 2005 model caster arms, Daizen control arm and steering rack bushings. New lower balljoints, inner and outer tie rod ends. I did not replace the new bushings in the caster arms with the Daizen pieces, I'll leave them for when the stockers start to wear again.
I set my OCD aside because its my DD and I would rather have the car look just right, ride height wise and as long as the cross weights were close, rather than adjust to a perfect 50.0 so the front fender to the base of the wheel, not the tire, is 22.5, the rear is 23.0.
Weight with me: 3866, w/o me: 3695.
LF: 1088____RF: 1062
LR: 900____RR: 816
Close enough, but I like it!
Alignment:
Camber
F: -1.6
R: -.06
Caster
7.5,7.7
Toe
F: .05
R: 0
The driver's side was -1.9 and the passenger's side was -1.2 a little more tweaking and then ultimately loosening the subframe to move it over some and we got -1.6 on both. I would've preferred less negative camber on the front but that is as good as it gets at this height.
02-18-10, 07:17 PM
#2
This is great info. I have the EXACT RCAs front and rear as well.
Your camber specs front and rear are similar to mine, but since I have more drop, I can't get the front camber as good. I'll have to dig for my actual specs and edit this post later.
Can we see a picture of your drop?
The BOTTOM LINE for many is to see how much drop is achievable while still being able to keep the rear camber in spec. and the front camber within reasonable range.
I'll have to post a pic of my car as well.
I'm changing my coilover set up soon and will corner balance the car after it's in.
Now I have your data as a reference.
Your camber specs front and rear are similar to mine, but since I have more drop, I can't get the front camber as good. I'll have to dig for my actual specs and edit this post later.
Can we see a picture of your drop?
The BOTTOM LINE for many is to see how much drop is achievable while still being able to keep the rear camber in spec. and the front camber within reasonable range.
I'll have to post a pic of my car as well.
I'm changing my coilover set up soon and will corner balance the car after it's in.
Now I have your data as a reference.
Last edited by RMMGS4; 06-16-10 at 08:59 AM.
02-19-10, 04:25 PM
#4
I put coilovers on the other day...and the scales were right there, so I put it on just to see.
1999 GS4
complete weight car minus spare w/t and jack
1/4 tank fuel
stock 17s
H&R coilovers
Exact front and rear RCA
At the same time I installed new 2005 model caster arms, Daizen control arm and steering rack bushings. New lower balljoints, inner and outer tie rod ends. I did not replace the new bushings in the caster arms with the Daizen pieces, I'll leave them for when the stockers start to wear again.
I set my OCD aside because its my DD and I would rather have the car look just right, ride height wise and as long as the cross weights were close, rather than adjust to a perfect 50.0 so the front fender to the base of the wheel, not the tire, is 22.5, the rear is 23.0.
Weight with me: 3866, w/o me: 3695.
LF: 1088____RF: 1062
LR: 900____RR: 816
Close enough, but I like it!
Alignment:
Camber
F: -1.6
R: -.06
Caster
7.5,7.7
Toe
F: .05
R: 0
The driver's side was -1.9 and the passenger's side was -1.2 a little more tweaking and then ultimately loosening the subframe to move it over some and we got -1.6 on both. I would've preferred less negative camber on the front but that is as good as it gets at this height.
1999 GS4
complete weight car minus spare w/t and jack
1/4 tank fuel
stock 17s
H&R coilovers
Exact front and rear RCA
At the same time I installed new 2005 model caster arms, Daizen control arm and steering rack bushings. New lower balljoints, inner and outer tie rod ends. I did not replace the new bushings in the caster arms with the Daizen pieces, I'll leave them for when the stockers start to wear again.
I set my OCD aside because its my DD and I would rather have the car look just right, ride height wise and as long as the cross weights were close, rather than adjust to a perfect 50.0 so the front fender to the base of the wheel, not the tire, is 22.5, the rear is 23.0.
Weight with me: 3866, w/o me: 3695.
LF: 1088____RF: 1062
LR: 900____RR: 816
Close enough, but I like it!
Alignment:
Camber
F: -1.6
R: -.06
Caster
7.5,7.7
Toe
F: .05
R: 0
The driver's side was -1.9 and the passenger's side was -1.2 a little more tweaking and then ultimately loosening the subframe to move it over some and we got -1.6 on both. I would've preferred less negative camber on the front but that is as good as it gets at this height.
06-16-10, 08:53 AM
#7
You look at them 
Corner balance specs are like alignment specs. You have an initial reading and you adjust your coilovers or move around parts for better weight distribution. One of my goals this summer is to corner balance my car once I get my clicking noise fixed
The weight distribution is not too bad for a 2GS!
Corner balance specs are like alignment specs. You have an initial reading and you adjust your coilovers or move around parts for better weight distribution. One of my goals this summer is to corner balance my car once I get my clicking noise fixed
The weight distribution is not too bad for a 2GS!
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