do eibach springs drop exactly same amount as L-tune
02-07-05, 04:05 PM
#2
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No, one sec and I'll get you a link comparing the two by whiteLS I think.
In short - supposedly Ltune drops the car a little more (not notible IMO, like .2)
Eibach is slightly stiffer
In short - supposedly Ltune drops the car a little more (not notible IMO, like .2)
Eibach is slightly stiffer
02-07-05, 04:07 PM
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02-08-05, 07:31 PM
#5
Don't do it Chuck!
Chuck don't do it.
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
02-09-05, 02:43 AM
#6
Originally Posted by 3dog
Chuck don't do it.
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
I have no regrets on my tein cs 
02-09-05, 11:05 AM
#7
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Thread Starter
Originally Posted by 3dog
Chuck don't do it.
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
has anyone had the corners weighed and tuned with their coilovers. that is one thing that makes me nervous. I saw on a tv car show where they were adjusting coil tension to change the weight on each corner of the car. they said it is different than just adjusting ride height and that you can actually mess up your handling by just bolting on coilovers
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02-09-05, 11:12 AM
#8
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Originally Posted by 3dog
Chuck don't do it.
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
Someday you'll look back and wish you'd spent your money on coilovers.
And then you will have to take those springs and shocks off and you'll think to yourself,
I should have done it right the first time! And then you will remember that I warned you. After you have your springs and shocks and experience all their shortcomings, it won't be long before you want coilovers.
Coilovers handle so much better.
It's like comparing a Dodge Neon to a Lexus GS400!
Springs and shocks are obsolete!
Ivan
3dog
why don't you tell chuck about all those banging and clanking noises coilovers make too....or did the SUPER DUPER SUPERB HANDLING that they emit cloud and deafen your sense of hearing??
02-09-05, 12:12 PM
#10
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by cliffud
Really???
coilovers = more noise?
coilovers = more noise?
ask the tein flex and HA guys about the crazy noises they make....
oh wait I forgot coilovers are G-D on this board
my JICs clanked and creaked like a 20yr old american POS
02-09-05, 12:59 PM
#11
Originally Posted by NT2SHBBY
ask the tein flex and HA guys about the crazy noises they make....
oh wait I forgot coilovers are G-D on this board
my JICs clanked and creaked like a 20yr old american POS
oh wait I forgot coilovers are G-D on this board
my JICs clanked and creaked like a 20yr old american POS
Chuck,
There is a whole thread on s/s vs coilovers:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/suspension-and-brakes/75055-coilovers-vs-springs-shocks.html
Read through that to see what's best for you. The L-Tuned S/S are a great deal right now and if that is all you need, get them. If any of the coilover benefits are potentially useful to you, then you may want to seriously consider coilovers.
With that said, do I regret swapping my suspension components 3 times? I do miss the install $ BUT I don't regret it. My needs grew/changed so I adjusted with it. There was no way for me to know 3 years ago what my needs are last year when I made the final (?) move to the CS. That would have been 2 years of waiting to drop and enjoy modding my car.
Even if it is only a matter of $, sometimes your financial outlook changes. If your current budget will only allow for S/S and doing this now will make you enjoy the car more, then do it. If next month, next year, ... you get a salary increase, change jobs for more $, come into other $ that will make coilovers a more comfortable purchase, change them out. So you wasted a couple of hundred bucks. It does not change the fact that you were not financially comfortable enough to do it before.
My personal recommendation? If you want coilovers, can use and appreciate its benefits, have the cash, and are willing to spend it without to much stress, the get coilovers. It is always a better play. If any of those conditions are not true, stay with the S/S.
In the end, do what is comfortable. Modding is fun and somewhat stressful (with the time spent researching and the anticipation, ...) but it should not make you unhappy and cause any potential regrets for spending too much.
02-09-05, 02:14 PM
#12
Originally Posted by Neo
I did not hear about HAs being noisy. The Flex has some noise because of its metal pillow mount. The price you pay for more flexibilty and handling. The CS are quiet. Maybe your JICs were bad. I don't have any experience with JICs so I'll leave that to those guys. I've had both the Tein Flex and CS (and the L-Tuned S/S).
Chuck,
There is a whole thread on s/s vs coilovers:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75055
Read through that to see what's best for you. The L-Tuned S/S are a great deal right now and if that is all you need, get them. If any of the coilover benefits are potentially useful to you, then you may want to seriously consider coilovers.
With that said, do I regret swapping my suspension components 3 times? I do miss the install $ BUT I don't regret it. My needs grew/changed so I adjusted with it. There was no way for me to know 3 years ago what my needs are last year when I made the final (?) move to the CS. That would have been 2 years of waiting to drop and enjoy modding my car.
Even if it is only a matter of $, sometimes your financial outlook changes. If your current budget will only allow for S/S and doing this now will make you enjoy the car more, then do it. If next month, next year, ... you get a salary increase, change jobs for more $, come into other $ that will make coilovers a more comfortable purchase, change them out. So you wasted a couple of hundred bucks. It does not change the fact that you were not financially comfortable enough to do it before.
My personal recommendation? If you want coilovers, can use and appreciate its benefits, have the cash, and are willing to spend it without to much stress, the get coilovers. It is always a better play. If any of those conditions are not true, stay with the S/S.
In the end, do what is comfortable. Modding is fun and somewhat stressful (with the time spent researching and the anticipation, ...) but it should not make you unhappy and cause any potential regrets for spending too much.
Chuck,
There is a whole thread on s/s vs coilovers:
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75055
Read through that to see what's best for you. The L-Tuned S/S are a great deal right now and if that is all you need, get them. If any of the coilover benefits are potentially useful to you, then you may want to seriously consider coilovers.
With that said, do I regret swapping my suspension components 3 times? I do miss the install $ BUT I don't regret it. My needs grew/changed so I adjusted with it. There was no way for me to know 3 years ago what my needs are last year when I made the final (?) move to the CS. That would have been 2 years of waiting to drop and enjoy modding my car.
Even if it is only a matter of $, sometimes your financial outlook changes. If your current budget will only allow for S/S and doing this now will make you enjoy the car more, then do it. If next month, next year, ... you get a salary increase, change jobs for more $, come into other $ that will make coilovers a more comfortable purchase, change them out. So you wasted a couple of hundred bucks. It does not change the fact that you were not financially comfortable enough to do it before.
My personal recommendation? If you want coilovers, can use and appreciate its benefits, have the cash, and are willing to spend it without to much stress, the get coilovers. It is always a better play. If any of those conditions are not true, stay with the S/S.
In the end, do what is comfortable. Modding is fun and somewhat stressful (with the time spent researching and the anticipation, ...) but it should not make you unhappy and cause any potential regrets for spending too much.
02-09-05, 03:33 PM
#13
Originally Posted by NT2SHBBY
why don't you tell chuck about all those banging and clanking noises coilovers make too....or did the SUPER DUPER SUPERB HANDLING that they emit cloud and deafen your sense of hearing?? Hey Chuck my coilovers make more noise than springs and shocks. But I think the
"""" SUPER DUPER SUPERB HANDLING """
is worth the small amount of noise they emit. Also contrary to what so many others get coilovers for I did not get them for the drop. I actually found the Bilstein Sport Shocks and Eibach springs dropped the car more than I liked. I've got the coilovers set a half inch below stock whereas the springs and shocks were something like an inch and I kept hitting things with the front end.
Also NT2SHBBY I'm talking to Chuck as one who has done it both ways and as his friend. I'm sorry if you did not like your JIC coilovers. I certainly hated my Bilstein Sport Shocks and Eibach Springs so I guess we are in agreement that what is good for one person is not always what is best for the other guy. I still hate spending money trying to go the cheap route, and then find out I have to spend even more to take the obsolete crap off. I'm trying to save Chuck from going thru the BS of springs and shocks when I know that coilovers are 100 times better..
And Chuck you do not have adjust the corners to weight the coilovers.
Ivan
3dog
Last edited by 3dog; 02-09-05 at 03:40 PM.
02-11-05, 06:15 AM
#14
Lexus Test Driver
Originally Posted by 3dog
I'm trying to save Chuck from going thru the BS of springs and shocks when I know that coilovers are 100 times better..
And Chuck you do not have adjust the corners to weight the coilovers.
Ivan
3dog
And Chuck you do not have adjust the corners to weight the coilovers.
Ivan
3dog
for the life of me, I am trying to comprehend how S/S are OBSOLETE considering EVERY SINGLE CAR SOLD IN THE WORLD TODAY COMES WITH THEM STANDARD?!?!?!If coilovers were oh sooo special and extraordinary, then cars would come with them stock...
