Updating navigation.
12-04-16, 02:38 PM
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Updating navigation.
I have an ES 350.
How do I know what generation I have?
All I can find is that my map version is this:
21-12-27 (2012-06-1)
I looked at this link:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order/
And this one:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/how-to-install-update/
Does the dealer have to install it?
Do I have to buy it from the dealer?
How much does it cost to buy, and install?
How do I know what generation I have?
All I can find is that my map version is this:
21-12-27 (2012-06-1)
I looked at this link:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order/
And this one:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/how-to-install-update/
Does the dealer have to install it?
Do I have to buy it from the dealer?
How much does it cost to buy, and install?
12-04-16, 06:14 PM
#3
Intermediate
I have an ES 350.
How do I know what generation I have?
All I can find is that my map version is this:
21-12-27 (2012-06-1)
I looked at this link:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order/
And this one:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/how-to-install-update/
Does the dealer have to install it?
Do I have to buy it from the dealer?
How much does it cost to buy, and install?
How do I know what generation I have?
All I can find is that my map version is this:
21-12-27 (2012-06-1)
I looked at this link:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order/
And this one:
http://www.lexusnavigation.com/how-to-install-update/
Does the dealer have to install it?
Do I have to buy it from the dealer?
How much does it cost to buy, and install?
12-04-16, 06:17 PM
#4
You have the 2012 version. I believe the update is $169 or $210 depending on your year and around $100 to have it installed. And yes, the dealer has to do it. (unless you have an older DVD based system). Your gen is based on your model year. Find your year in the left column and then your gen in the 4th column.
12-04-16, 06:19 PM
#5
Intermediate
12-29-16, 07:08 AM
#6
Nav Update - My Experience
I got the nav update recently and thought I'd share my experience. While phone nav apps work well and are up to date, I prefer the convenience of the built-in nav on the ES. My July 2014 ES came with the [2013-06-01] nav data (i.e., 2013). The nav updates are dated JUNE but are available in OCTOBER. So I went in for my 35K a few days ago and decided to get the nav update after three years...to get the 2016 data. I figured every three years would justify the cost.
The "data sheet" that comes with the nav update they gave me afterwards says over 20% POIs [points of interest] were updated (over 8 million). Over 200,000 miles of new roads, over 50 metro areas have been updated, and hundreds of new subdivisions added. This is all from the last update--in 2015. So to upgrade from three years prior, there has got to be piles 'o updates. So I think it was definitely worth it.
After I updated, the screen looks slightly better. Some more green areas, blue water areas (creeks, etc.), cemetery's. The streets look better drawn. Some places that are "new" in the last few years in the DFW area are all there now. My wife and I will be traveling more and I wanted a newer nav + POIs for everywhere.
So, overall, I'm pleased. The final cost was $169 for the "part" and $98 for labor = $267. And for those who ask, to the best of my research, you used to be able to order the nav update part yourself, but now (as of 2013?) you HAVE to go through a Lexus dealer--i.e., pay the labor cost. $98 is silly for a software update, but that's life in a luxury dealership, I guess. I get a free lunch of drinks and snacks, tho--heh--always make sure I use that benefit!
My plan is to update every three years, I figure that justifies the cost. I'll still have my iPhone with me if push comes to shove.
The "data sheet" that comes with the nav update they gave me afterwards says over 20% POIs [points of interest] were updated (over 8 million). Over 200,000 miles of new roads, over 50 metro areas have been updated, and hundreds of new subdivisions added. This is all from the last update--in 2015. So to upgrade from three years prior, there has got to be piles 'o updates. So I think it was definitely worth it.
After I updated, the screen looks slightly better. Some more green areas, blue water areas (creeks, etc.), cemetery's. The streets look better drawn. Some places that are "new" in the last few years in the DFW area are all there now. My wife and I will be traveling more and I wanted a newer nav + POIs for everywhere.
So, overall, I'm pleased. The final cost was $169 for the "part" and $98 for labor = $267. And for those who ask, to the best of my research, you used to be able to order the nav update part yourself, but now (as of 2013?) you HAVE to go through a Lexus dealer--i.e., pay the labor cost. $98 is silly for a software update, but that's life in a luxury dealership, I guess. I get a free lunch of drinks and snacks, tho--heh--always make sure I use that benefit!
My plan is to update every three years, I figure that justifies the cost. I'll still have my iPhone with me if push comes to shove.
01-02-17, 11:21 AM
#7
Instructor
Thread Starter
I got the nav update recently and thought I'd share my experience. While phone nav apps work well and are up to date, I prefer the convenience of the built-in nav on the ES. My July 2014 ES came with the [2013-06-01] nav data (i.e., 2013). The nav updates are dated JUNE but are available in OCTOBER. So I went in for my 35K a few days ago and decided to get the nav update after three years...to get the 2016 data. I figured every three years would justify the cost.
The "data sheet" that comes with the nav update they gave me afterwards says over 20% POIs [points of interest] were updated (over 8 million). Over 200,000 miles of new roads, over 50 metro areas have been updated, and hundreds of new subdivisions added. This is all from the last update--in 2015. So to upgrade from three years prior, there has got to be piles 'o updates. So I think it was definitely worth it.
After I updated, the screen looks slightly better. Some more green areas, blue water areas (creeks, etc.), cemetery's. The streets look better drawn. Some places that are "new" in the last few years in the DFW area are all there now. My wife and I will be traveling more and I wanted a newer nav + POIs for everywhere.
So, overall, I'm pleased. The final cost was $169 for the "part" and $98 for labor = $267. And for those who ask, to the best of my research, you used to be able to order the nav update part yourself, but now (as of 2013?) you HAVE to go through a Lexus dealer--i.e., pay the labor cost. $98 is silly for a software update, but that's life in a luxury dealership, I guess. I get a free lunch of drinks and snacks, tho--heh--always make sure I use that benefit!
My plan is to update every three years, I figure that justifies the cost. I'll still have my iPhone with me if push comes to shove.
The "data sheet" that comes with the nav update they gave me afterwards says over 20% POIs [points of interest] were updated (over 8 million). Over 200,000 miles of new roads, over 50 metro areas have been updated, and hundreds of new subdivisions added. This is all from the last update--in 2015. So to upgrade from three years prior, there has got to be piles 'o updates. So I think it was definitely worth it.
After I updated, the screen looks slightly better. Some more green areas, blue water areas (creeks, etc.), cemetery's. The streets look better drawn. Some places that are "new" in the last few years in the DFW area are all there now. My wife and I will be traveling more and I wanted a newer nav + POIs for everywhere.
So, overall, I'm pleased. The final cost was $169 for the "part" and $98 for labor = $267. And for those who ask, to the best of my research, you used to be able to order the nav update part yourself, but now (as of 2013?) you HAVE to go through a Lexus dealer--i.e., pay the labor cost. $98 is silly for a software update, but that's life in a luxury dealership, I guess. I get a free lunch of drinks and snacks, tho--heh--always make sure I use that benefit!
My plan is to update every three years, I figure that justifies the cost. I'll still have my iPhone with me if push comes to shove.
I hadn't gotten any notifications for this thread until your reply.
I agree I like the built-in nav. I don't want to use my phone for navigation (uses battery; uses data). And I like the screen size of built-in navs.
$267 is a bit much, but there are so many POIs missing, especially in newer retail areas.
How do you get free drinks and snacks?
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01-02-17, 11:23 AM
#8
Instructor
Thread Starter
You have the 2012 version. I believe the update is $169 or $210 depending on your year and around $100 to have it installed. And yes, the dealer has to do it. (unless you have an older DVD based system). Your gen is based on your model year. Find your year in the left column and then your gen in the 4th column.
01-02-17, 01:52 PM
#9
Go here for info: http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order
I don't recall where I read it, but you USED to be able to update the Nav yourself...perhaps GEN 6 and before. I can't speak for the 2016+ models, I just know they won't let the 2013-2014 ES folks personally updated the Nav. I wonder if it has to do with "doing it wrong" and blaming Lexus for some silly lawsuit or bad traffic or who knows what in our society these days. I don't have a 2015 (obviously!) but don't know where a MicroSD card would be inserted into the car anyway.
Oh, and my Park Place (TX) Lexus dealership offers free drinks (sodas, etc.) and snacks (bagels, apples, nuts, M&Ms, etc.) while you wait--even waiting for free car washes. I make sure to use that each time I go. Heh.
I don't recall where I read it, but you USED to be able to update the Nav yourself...perhaps GEN 6 and before. I can't speak for the 2016+ models, I just know they won't let the 2013-2014 ES folks personally updated the Nav. I wonder if it has to do with "doing it wrong" and blaming Lexus for some silly lawsuit or bad traffic or who knows what in our society these days. I don't have a 2015 (obviously!) but don't know where a MicroSD card would be inserted into the car anyway.
Oh, and my Park Place (TX) Lexus dealership offers free drinks (sodas, etc.) and snacks (bagels, apples, nuts, M&Ms, etc.) while you wait--even waiting for free car washes. I make sure to use that each time I go. Heh.
01-02-17, 02:06 PM
#10
Lexus Champion
Thanks for the post.
I hadn't gotten any notifications for this thread until your reply.
I agree I like the built-in nav. I don't want to use my phone for navigation (uses battery; uses data). And I like the screen size of built-in navs.
$267 is a bit much, but there are so many POIs missing, especially in newer retail areas.
How do you get free drinks and snacks?
I hadn't gotten any notifications for this thread until your reply.
I agree I like the built-in nav. I don't want to use my phone for navigation (uses battery; uses data). And I like the screen size of built-in navs.
$267 is a bit much, but there are so many POIs missing, especially in newer retail areas.
How do you get free drinks and snacks?
I believe you had to take the car in to the dealer beginning with the 2010 model year. It was the first ES to have a hard drive for the navigation.
01-02-17, 03:01 PM
#11
Instructor
Thread Starter
Go here for info: http://www.lexusnavigation.com/what-to-order
I don't recall where I read it, but you USED to be able to update the Nav yourself...perhaps GEN 6 and before. I can't speak for the 2016+ models, I just know they won't let the 2013-2014 ES folks personally updated the Nav. I wonder if it has to do with "doing it wrong" and blaming Lexus for some silly lawsuit or bad traffic or who knows what in our society these days. I don't have a 2015 (obviously!) but don't know where a MicroSD card would be inserted into the car anyway.
Oh, and my Park Place (TX) Lexus dealership offers free drinks (sodas, etc.) and snacks (bagels, apples, nuts, M&Ms, etc.) while you wait--even waiting for free car washes. I make sure to use that each time I go. Heh.
I don't recall where I read it, but you USED to be able to update the Nav yourself...perhaps GEN 6 and before. I can't speak for the 2016+ models, I just know they won't let the 2013-2014 ES folks personally updated the Nav. I wonder if it has to do with "doing it wrong" and blaming Lexus for some silly lawsuit or bad traffic or who knows what in our society these days. I don't have a 2015 (obviously!) but don't know where a MicroSD card would be inserted into the car anyway.
Oh, and my Park Place (TX) Lexus dealership offers free drinks (sodas, etc.) and snacks (bagels, apples, nuts, M&Ms, etc.) while you wait--even waiting for free car washes. I make sure to use that each time I go. Heh.
If you decide to get it done at the dealership, check onlne to see if they have any Service Specials. Usually you can save a few bucks with a coupon or a % off special.
I believe you had to take the car in to the dealer beginning with the 2010 model year. It was the first ES to have a hard drive for the navigation.
I believe you had to take the car in to the dealer beginning with the 2010 model year. It was the first ES to have a hard drive for the navigation.
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