trunk lid adjustment
06-23-11, 06:25 AM
#2
Normally will have stoppers which are adjustable with the hood. Do not know about the rear.
And welcome to CL.
And welcome to CL.
06-23-11, 08:54 AM
#3
Moderator
Actually it's pretty complex for a vertical adjustment. It's one of those tasks where all interior luggage compartment garnish pieces must be removed to access the bolts for the adjustment.
Both front and rear have to be adjusted simultaneously and shims are used, inserted or removed. According to my FSM standard thickness is 2.0mm with two shims (1.0mm thick). Shims come in 0.5 and 1.0 mm thickness. If you're too high on one side, then it sounds like removing one 1.0 shim and replacing it with a 0.5 shim may correct the alignment problem.
A lot of work for a sixteenth, although for an eighth, would be very obvious to a casual observer.
Both front and rear have to be adjusted simultaneously and shims are used, inserted or removed. According to my FSM standard thickness is 2.0mm with two shims (1.0mm thick). Shims come in 0.5 and 1.0 mm thickness. If you're too high on one side, then it sounds like removing one 1.0 shim and replacing it with a 0.5 shim may correct the alignment problem.
A lot of work for a sixteenth, although for an eighth, would be very obvious to a casual observer.
Last edited by VVTiBob; 06-23-11 at 08:57 AM.
06-23-11, 10:21 AM
#4
Wow, that's one complex adjustment.
06-23-11, 05:06 PM
#6
Lead Lap
Good luck and let us know how it comes out.
Welcome to the forum.
Welcome to the forum.
06-24-11, 07:46 AM
#7
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
Thanks for the welcome. I'll let you know what I discover. The lid is up about 3/32 on the passenger side, which is just enough to bug me every time I look in the passenger side mirror. I'll remove the covers and check the shim status.
Tackling the timing belt next. This is a new-to-me 2002 with 84K miles. I'm owner #2. First owner maintained the vehicle by-the-book via a Lexus dealer every 5k miles through 75K. Now it is my turn. So far, I'm very impressed with the vehicle. These things are well engineered for the long haul and Lexus' attention to detail is remarkable. I almost went with a BMW E46 vert - so glad this SC430 came along.
Kelly
Tackling the timing belt next. This is a new-to-me 2002 with 84K miles. I'm owner #2. First owner maintained the vehicle by-the-book via a Lexus dealer every 5k miles through 75K. Now it is my turn. So far, I'm very impressed with the vehicle. These things are well engineered for the long haul and Lexus' attention to detail is remarkable. I almost went with a BMW E46 vert - so glad this SC430 came along.
Kelly
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06-24-11, 08:04 AM
#8
Thanks for the welcome. I'll let you know what I discover. The lid is up about 3/32 on the passenger side, which is just enough to bug me every time I look in the passenger side mirror. I'll remove the covers and check the shim status.
Tackling the timing belt next. This is a new-to-me 2002 with 84K miles. I'm owner #2. First owner maintained the vehicle by-the-book via a Lexus dealer every 5k miles through 75K. Now it is my turn. So far, I'm very impressed with the vehicle. These things are well engineered for the long haul and Lexus' attention to detail is remarkable. I almost went with a BMW E46 vert - so glad this SC430 came along.
Kelly
Tackling the timing belt next. This is a new-to-me 2002 with 84K miles. I'm owner #2. First owner maintained the vehicle by-the-book via a Lexus dealer every 5k miles through 75K. Now it is my turn. So far, I'm very impressed with the vehicle. These things are well engineered for the long haul and Lexus' attention to detail is remarkable. I almost went with a BMW E46 vert - so glad this SC430 came along.
Kelly
I too am an owner of a new to me 2002 with 57K. I'm the second owner as well and I have brought her back to tip top mechanical shape as I just finished the Timing Belt as DIY and it was very easy if you've ever done any timing belt change yourself in the past.
Biggest tip for that would be to make sure you advance the timing to 50 ATDC to avoid spring back of the cam gear on the left bank. Also, save yourself some time and purchase a new plastic clip that holds the cam gear sensor plug to the timing belt cover on the left bank side. I wasted 45Min trying to get it off without breaking it...so much for that...LOL!
06-24-11, 08:25 AM
#9
Lead Lap
Thread Starter
Playtym,
Thanks for the tip on the clip for the cam gear sensor. I'm planning on replacing the water pump, tensioner and idler bearings, hydraulic tensioner, and serpentine belt. Maybe hoses since they look original and 10 years is a long time for hoses. Anything else - thermostat?? Best to remove the radiator for clearance? (I've read about some who didn't).
Found a nice write-up on an LS 430 belt change here, which includes your note about advancing to 50ATDC to keep the left cam from jumping back:
http://www.shastaanesthesia.com/Lexus/Page1.html
I was planning on buying the special cam tool - not sure about the tool for removing the crank bolt. What do you think? My Dad has offered to help - lately he's been doing timing belts on my brothers' Audi's and VW's - which look to be crazy compared to this V8. I could do this on my own, but Dad is getting on in years and I look forward to a father/son project again. We rebuilt several Mercedes Diesels during the 70's gas crisis and I miss those projects with him.
any other tips greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the tip on the clip for the cam gear sensor. I'm planning on replacing the water pump, tensioner and idler bearings, hydraulic tensioner, and serpentine belt. Maybe hoses since they look original and 10 years is a long time for hoses. Anything else - thermostat?? Best to remove the radiator for clearance? (I've read about some who didn't).
Found a nice write-up on an LS 430 belt change here, which includes your note about advancing to 50ATDC to keep the left cam from jumping back:
http://www.shastaanesthesia.com/Lexus/Page1.html
I was planning on buying the special cam tool - not sure about the tool for removing the crank bolt. What do you think? My Dad has offered to help - lately he's been doing timing belts on my brothers' Audi's and VW's - which look to be crazy compared to this V8. I could do this on my own, but Dad is getting on in years and I look forward to a father/son project again. We rebuilt several Mercedes Diesels during the 70's gas crisis and I miss those projects with him.
any other tips greatly appreciated.
06-24-11, 08:36 AM
#10
Welcome!
I too am an owner of a new to me 2002 with 57K. I'm the second owner as well and I have brought her back to tip top mechanical shape as I just finished the Timing Belt as DIY and it was very easy if you've ever done any timing belt change yourself in the past.
Biggest tip for that would be to make sure you advance the timing to 50 ATDC to avoid spring back of the cam gear on the left bank. Also, save yourself some time and purchase a new plastic clip that holds the cam gear sensor plug to the timing belt cover on the left bank side. I wasted 45Min trying to get it off without breaking it...so much for that...LOL!
I too am an owner of a new to me 2002 with 57K. I'm the second owner as well and I have brought her back to tip top mechanical shape as I just finished the Timing Belt as DIY and it was very easy if you've ever done any timing belt change yourself in the past.
Biggest tip for that would be to make sure you advance the timing to 50 ATDC to avoid spring back of the cam gear on the left bank. Also, save yourself some time and purchase a new plastic clip that holds the cam gear sensor plug to the timing belt cover on the left bank side. I wasted 45Min trying to get it off without breaking it...so much for that...LOL!
06-24-11, 09:13 AM
#11
Playtym,
Thanks for the tip on the clip for the cam gear sensor. I'm planning on replacing the water pump, tensioner and idler bearings, hydraulic tensioner, and serpentine belt. Maybe hoses since they look original and 10 years is a long time for hoses. Anything else - thermostat?? Best to remove the radiator for clearance? (I've read about some who didn't).
Found a nice write-up on an LS 430 belt change here, which includes your note about advancing to 50ATDC to keep the left cam from jumping back:
http://www.shastaanesthesia.com/Lexus/Page1.html
I was planning on buying the special cam tool - not sure about the tool for removing the crank bolt. What do you think? My Dad has offered to help - lately he's been doing timing belts on my brothers' Audi's and VW's - which look to be crazy compared to this V8. I could do this on my own, but Dad is getting on in years and I look forward to a father/son project again. We rebuilt several Mercedes Diesels during the 70's gas crisis and I miss those projects with him.
any other tips greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the tip on the clip for the cam gear sensor. I'm planning on replacing the water pump, tensioner and idler bearings, hydraulic tensioner, and serpentine belt. Maybe hoses since they look original and 10 years is a long time for hoses. Anything else - thermostat?? Best to remove the radiator for clearance? (I've read about some who didn't).
Found a nice write-up on an LS 430 belt change here, which includes your note about advancing to 50ATDC to keep the left cam from jumping back:
http://www.shastaanesthesia.com/Lexus/Page1.html
I was planning on buying the special cam tool - not sure about the tool for removing the crank bolt. What do you think? My Dad has offered to help - lately he's been doing timing belts on my brothers' Audi's and VW's - which look to be crazy compared to this V8. I could do this on my own, but Dad is getting on in years and I look forward to a father/son project again. We rebuilt several Mercedes Diesels during the 70's gas crisis and I miss those projects with him.
any other tips greatly appreciated.
06-24-11, 12:42 PM
#13
Thank you very much...very very much. And sorry for that FONT size...did not mean to shout, LOL!
Kidding aside, rate Timing belt, 1 to 5, where 5 means an expert mechanic level needed. And what tools were needed out of the ordinary?
Kidding aside, rate Timing belt, 1 to 5, where 5 means an expert mechanic level needed. And what tools were needed out of the ordinary?
06-27-11, 06:13 AM
#14
As far as special tools...an air ratchet and air gun will be very helpful. Also a lift will make your job so much faster. Other than that...the tools are pretty standard. I used no special cam gear tools of any kind. As long as you advance to 50 degrees ATDC...you're good to go.
