2005 PB Edition Black on Red Deal? Good?
08-31-09, 10:51 PM
#1
2005 PB Edition Black on Red Deal? Good?
2005 PB Black on Red (of course) 72k miles (high, but wait for the price)...$20,990, and they said they would let it go for about $18-$19k plus TTL, shipping etc.
I know it's high miles, but other than the NM edition, this car to me has got to be one of the sharpest combinations and rarest of all special edition SC's.
I know it's high miles, but other than the NM edition, this car to me has got to be one of the sharpest combinations and rarest of all special edition SC's.
08-31-09, 11:20 PM
#2
I'd say it's a heck of a deal. I nearly bought on '05 PB edition for $26,900 out of Houston and I thought THAT was a great price. It had 1/3rd the mileage of this car you are talking about, but for $8,000 less, I'd say it would be a great deal. Just make sure it hasn't been wrecked and that's the reason it's so cheap. I've seen people asking nearly $40,000 for the '05 PB edition and I laugh to myself when I see that price because they are never going to get it.
I've found that the cars with the red interior don't sell as well as you would think. A lot of people flat out can't stand them and it's the LAST thing they would choose. When you couple the relatively high price for a 4 year old car with the red leather, it becomes an albatross for the dealers and they really have a tough time getting rid of them.....UNLESS that one person who loves the red leather comes along.
You and I love the red leather, but I think we are definitely in the minority.
I've found that the cars with the red interior don't sell as well as you would think. A lot of people flat out can't stand them and it's the LAST thing they would choose. When you couple the relatively high price for a 4 year old car with the red leather, it becomes an albatross for the dealers and they really have a tough time getting rid of them.....UNLESS that one person who loves the red leather comes along.
You and I love the red leather, but I think we are definitely in the minority.
08-31-09, 11:42 PM
#3
This is kind of off topic, but I just discovered some information about the 2007 PB edition that I always wondered about.
I always wondered if the '07 PB edition had the red engine cover and red pull handle for the screen in the trunk....like the '02 Neiman Marcus and '05 PB editions do. Well, the answer is NO, they don't. I just saw some pictures of a white '07 PB edition with red leather, and it had the standard black engine cover and a black pull handle in the trunk.
I believe I've seen both black and red floor mats for the '07 PB edition. I'm not sure which color it came with, but I believe it was black mats with red stitching for the PB insignia.
I always wondered if the '07 PB edition had the red engine cover and red pull handle for the screen in the trunk....like the '02 Neiman Marcus and '05 PB editions do. Well, the answer is NO, they don't. I just saw some pictures of a white '07 PB edition with red leather, and it had the standard black engine cover and a black pull handle in the trunk.
I believe I've seen both black and red floor mats for the '07 PB edition. I'm not sure which color it came with, but I believe it was black mats with red stitching for the PB insignia.
09-01-09, 03:42 AM
#5
This is kind of off topic, but I just discovered some information about the 2007 PB edition that I always wondered about.
I always wondered if the '07 PB edition had the red engine cover and red pull handle for the screen in the trunk....like the '02 Neiman Marcus and '05 PB editions do. Well, the answer is NO, they don't. I just saw some pictures of a white '07 PB edition with red leather, and it had the standard black engine cover and a black pull handle in the trunk.
I believe I've seen both black and red floor mats for the '07 PB edition. I'm not sure which color it came with, but I believe it was black mats with red stitching for the PB insignia.
I always wondered if the '07 PB edition had the red engine cover and red pull handle for the screen in the trunk....like the '02 Neiman Marcus and '05 PB editions do. Well, the answer is NO, they don't. I just saw some pictures of a white '07 PB edition with red leather, and it had the standard black engine cover and a black pull handle in the trunk.
I believe I've seen both black and red floor mats for the '07 PB edition. I'm not sure which color it came with, but I believe it was black mats with red stitching for the PB insignia.
09-01-09, 05:13 AM
#6
Lexus Test Driver
GET IT!!!! Crap, I'm jealous now. Haha. What a deal! Just make sure you do all the maintenance and get the car up to date mechanically. Mileage doesn't matter that much to me, as long as we maintain them I'm sure they'll go a looooonnnngggg way.
Side Note: I read in a consumer magazine that the SC430 is one of the most worry-free cars mechanically. I think it was something like 72 problems reported out of 100 cars, which is really good compared to the avg. which I think is around 200 for every 100.
Just my two cents
Side Note: I read in a consumer magazine that the SC430 is one of the most worry-free cars mechanically. I think it was something like 72 problems reported out of 100 cars, which is really good compared to the avg. which I think is around 200 for every 100.
Just my two cents
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09-01-09, 03:27 PM
#9
I've been drooling over this car the last few days...you're deal seems a little too good make sure the dealer is disclosing all the details about the car...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...=p4506.c0.m245
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...=p4506.c0.m245
09-05-09, 10:35 AM
#10
I am looking at at PB 2005 with 80k miles in Mass for $20k or so at a wholesaler, but getting a hard time communicating with them and the history is a little spotty.
Regarding this one at Performance Lexus in OH, it's been well maintained at the dealer which is HUGE for me. In summary, 30k, 60k + battery recently, brakes all the way around (recently too) AND IT WAS A CPO CAR! This usually means it was pampered.
here is the maint history:
Dealer Reported 08/25/2009 Performance Lexus 77760 0065689 UCI LOF
Dealer Reported 08/25/2009 Performance Lexus 77760 0065689 REPLACED REAR BRAKE PADS AND MACHINED REAR BRAKE ROTORS
Dealer Reported 01/02/2009 Performance Lexus 66884 0055811 PERFORMED 60,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 01/02/2009 Performance Lexus 66884 0055811 REPLACED FRONT BRAKE PADS & MACHINE ROTORS
Dealer Reported 09/04/2008 Performance Lexus 62048 0050713 REPLACED BATTERY
Dealer Reported 09/04/2008 Performance Lexus 62048 0050713 LEXUS ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE/ CASE #80090038
Dealer Reported 05/22/2008 Performance Lexus 58232 0046037 PERFORMED 55,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 11/19/2007 Performance Lexus 50697 0038383 PERFORMED 50,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 11/19/2007 Performance Lexus 50697 0038383 NO CHARGE NEEDS TIRES
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 PERFORMED 45,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 FLUSH POWER STEERING
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 PERFORMED COOLANT SERVICE
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 NO CHARGE
Dealer Reported 01/05/2007 Performance Lexus 37297 0024986 ADDED AIR AND CHECKED WITH COMPUT
Dealer Reported 01/05/2007 Performance Lexus 37297 0024986 ADDED AIR AND CHECKED WITH COMPUT
Dealer Reported 01/05/2007 Performance Lexus 37297 0024986 CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED 1ST OIL CHANGE
Dealer Reported 12/26/2006 Performance Lexus 56360 0024521 CUSTOMER NEVER SHOWED UP FOR SERVICE APPOINTMENT
Dealer Reported 12/23/2006 Performance Lexus 36925 0024549 MOUNTED AND BALACED NEW TIRE
Dealer Reported 11/24/2006 Performance Lexus 35834 0023258 PLUGGED RF TIRE
Dealer Reported 09/14/2006 Performance Lexus 32745 0020200 REPLACED LEFT FRONT TIRE.
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED INSPECTION
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 PERFORMED 30,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 REPL AC FILTER .5
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 LUBE FRONT PADS AND HOLDERS 1.5
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 DISTRIBUTOR/HDLIGHT/T. SGNL
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 FRONT AXLE
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 ELECT/MODULATED AIR SUSPNSN AIRBAG SYSTEM
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/01/2005 Lexus of Nashville 22581 0047500 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/01/2005 Lexus of Nashville 22581 0047500 WHEEL ALIGNMENT
Dealer Reported 09/01/2005 Lexus of Nashville 22581 0047500 ACCESSORY
Dealer Reported 06/09/2005 Lexus of Nashville 15702 0042535 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 02/10/2005 Lexus of Nashville 6418 0036286 5,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 12/16/2004 Lexus of Nashville 3786 0033282 ACCESSORY
Dealer Reported 10/14/2004 Lexus of Nashville 686 0029939 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 10/14/2004 Lexus of Nashville 686 0029939 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 10/14/2004 Lexus of Nashville 686 0029939 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/27/2004 Lexus of Nashville 8 0028980 PRE-DELIVERY SERVICE FOR USA ALL ALTITUDES
Regarding this one at Performance Lexus in OH, it's been well maintained at the dealer which is HUGE for me. In summary, 30k, 60k + battery recently, brakes all the way around (recently too) AND IT WAS A CPO CAR! This usually means it was pampered.
here is the maint history:
Dealer Reported 08/25/2009 Performance Lexus 77760 0065689 UCI LOF
Dealer Reported 08/25/2009 Performance Lexus 77760 0065689 REPLACED REAR BRAKE PADS AND MACHINED REAR BRAKE ROTORS
Dealer Reported 01/02/2009 Performance Lexus 66884 0055811 PERFORMED 60,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 01/02/2009 Performance Lexus 66884 0055811 REPLACED FRONT BRAKE PADS & MACHINE ROTORS
Dealer Reported 09/04/2008 Performance Lexus 62048 0050713 REPLACED BATTERY
Dealer Reported 09/04/2008 Performance Lexus 62048 0050713 LEXUS ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE/ CASE #80090038
Dealer Reported 05/22/2008 Performance Lexus 58232 0046037 PERFORMED 55,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 11/19/2007 Performance Lexus 50697 0038383 PERFORMED 50,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 11/19/2007 Performance Lexus 50697 0038383 NO CHARGE NEEDS TIRES
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 PERFORMED 45,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 FLUSH POWER STEERING
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 PERFORMED COOLANT SERVICE
Dealer Reported 07/24/2007 Performance Lexus 44758 0033320 NO CHARGE
Dealer Reported 01/05/2007 Performance Lexus 37297 0024986 ADDED AIR AND CHECKED WITH COMPUT
Dealer Reported 01/05/2007 Performance Lexus 37297 0024986 ADDED AIR AND CHECKED WITH COMPUT
Dealer Reported 01/05/2007 Performance Lexus 37297 0024986 CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED 1ST OIL CHANGE
Dealer Reported 12/26/2006 Performance Lexus 56360 0024521 CUSTOMER NEVER SHOWED UP FOR SERVICE APPOINTMENT
Dealer Reported 12/23/2006 Performance Lexus 36925 0024549 MOUNTED AND BALACED NEW TIRE
Dealer Reported 11/24/2006 Performance Lexus 35834 0023258 PLUGGED RF TIRE
Dealer Reported 09/14/2006 Performance Lexus 32745 0020200 REPLACED LEFT FRONT TIRE.
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 CERTIFIED PRE-OWNED INSPECTION
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 PERFORMED 30,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 REPL AC FILTER .5
Dealer Reported 08/30/2006 Performance Lexus 32050 0019397 LUBE FRONT PADS AND HOLDERS 1.5
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 DISTRIBUTOR/HDLIGHT/T. SGNL
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 FRONT AXLE
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 ELECT/MODULATED AIR SUSPNSN AIRBAG SYSTEM
Dealer Reported 10/19/2005 Lexus of Nashville 26119 0049647 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/01/2005 Lexus of Nashville 22581 0047500 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/01/2005 Lexus of Nashville 22581 0047500 WHEEL ALIGNMENT
Dealer Reported 09/01/2005 Lexus of Nashville 22581 0047500 ACCESSORY
Dealer Reported 06/09/2005 Lexus of Nashville 15702 0042535 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 02/10/2005 Lexus of Nashville 6418 0036286 5,000 MILE SERVICE
Dealer Reported 12/16/2004 Lexus of Nashville 3786 0033282 ACCESSORY
Dealer Reported 10/14/2004 Lexus of Nashville 686 0029939 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 10/14/2004 Lexus of Nashville 686 0029939 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 10/14/2004 Lexus of Nashville 686 0029939 NON WARRANTABLE OPERATION CODE
Dealer Reported 09/27/2004 Lexus of Nashville 8 0028980 PRE-DELIVERY SERVICE FOR USA ALL ALTITUDES
09-05-09, 11:19 AM
#12
25 would probably be a fair price for it. I had a chance to get one for $27,900 that only had 29,000 miles on it and I passed it up. I could kick myself.
Last edited by TooCoolSC; 09-05-09 at 11:23 AM.
09-05-09, 11:22 AM
#13
no that one is on autotrader
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
no communication with them at all!!!! Other than the initial e-mail and call. Maybe it sold??? THIS IS A STEAL if it has been maintained and not beat to hell
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
no communication with them at all!!!! Other than the initial e-mail and call. Maybe it sold??? THIS IS A STEAL if it has been maintained and not beat to hell
09-05-09, 11:27 AM
#15
this is one of those TALE OF TWO CARS...where one is suspect on it's history, maint, seller, etc. The other at a reputable Lexus dealer with full service history at the dealer, condition slightly better, miles about the same but for $5k more!
Million dollar question---is it worth $5k more? What if the other car for $20k is a beater? What if it has not been maintained well? What if it's been in a wreck? No carfax on it.
But...what if the cheaper car is truly a STEAL and has been maint well?
Lots to ponder! DAMNIT I wish these cars were local!!!! I've only seen a couple of PB Editions period (and we have a ****load of SC's around in Dallas, trust me) in town and only one of the 2005 model.
Million dollar question---is it worth $5k more? What if the other car for $20k is a beater? What if it has not been maintained well? What if it's been in a wreck? No carfax on it.
But...what if the cheaper car is truly a STEAL and has been maint well?
Lots to ponder! DAMNIT I wish these cars were local!!!! I've only seen a couple of PB Editions period (and we have a ****load of SC's around in Dallas, trust me) in town and only one of the 2005 model.