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Old 08-16-04, 07:48 AM
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Default Daizen sway bars installed

I had Daizen sway bars installed recently which has resulted in improved handling and much flatter cornering. If you haven't done it yet, do it. I purchased the bars from Todd at TM Engineering in California who charged me only $25 to ship them to upstate New York.

I think they make the ride a tad harsher, although nowhere near as harsh as the ride was with runflats. Any others notice this? Or is It my imagination.

http://www.tmengineering.net/suspens...zen/index.html

FWIW ... got 25.2 mpg on this 300-mile round trip with average speed 63.1 mph (a lot of construction slowdowns); ECT off, mostly in 5th gear .
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awesome, congrats on the new sways! todd is awesome guy to deal with
Old 08-16-04, 12:57 PM
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Congrats on the upgrade. Mine (although not on an SC430) were also bought and installed at TM. Top notch product and service.
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1Nice, I agree with you that the ride is a tad stiffer with the new sways. The handling improvement is very noticable in the turns especially when you corner aggresively. One problem that I've had with the new sways is a creaking sound in the suspension that I hear when I go over bumps. I had the dealer relubricate the bushings but it didn't help. Anyone else have this problem?
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Hmmm. Dozer mentioned a "harsher ride" too after his install some months ago. He had just installed Teins, sways, wheels and tires almost at the same time. I recommended he desparately needed an alignment which is typically done after a shock, spring or wheel size change. (Although not stated, I think it's a good idea after a swaybar install too, especially if it hasn't been done in awhile.)

Is the cabin bumpier or are you feeling something through the steering?

I had mine installed over "aligned" Tein CS's and original runflats. No harshness. In fact, maybe a bit smoother, but I think that's because they were complimenting the Teins so well.

My advice to you and everyone, sways or not, is get an alignment if you haven't already. I thought my car was in alignment when I bought it and I had no unusual tire wear during the first year. I had an alignment done at 10K miles when I had the Teins installed and immediately noticed that the runflats felt more like non-runflat tires. Yeah, no kidding. In fact, when I finally put on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S's, I did not notice as great an improvment as others here have mentioned, and was glad I put a bunch of miles on the runflats before re-tiring.

Your results may differ from mine, but I say get an alignment anyway. Can't hurt.

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>noticed that the runflats felt more like non-runflat tires. Yeah, no kidding<
Can I have some of what you're smoking?

Seriously, thanks for the advice. I have just shy of 9,000 miles on my car and have not noticed any evidence that an alignment is required, but, as you said, you didn't either.

>Is the cabin bumpier or are you feeling something through the steering?<
I don't feel anything odd in the steering. The feel is very similar to the effect that runflats had on the car, but not as extreme.
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The increased stiffness is actually pretty subtle. You notice it most when going over speed bumps or driveway curbs. Stiffer sway bars reduce the independence of the independent suspension.
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Hey Ed. Sounds like an alignment is in order.
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Roofless ...

Y'know, I'm a pessimist. I figure as soon as I get an alignment, my car will be out of alignment. One of my maxims is "let sleeping dogs lie".

BTW - How the heck do you keep your braids so nice and brown when your beard is so grey?
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