SC430 - 2nd Gen (2001-2010)

Wheels and tires 101

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-21-05, 12:47 AM
  #16  
Neo
The One
iTrader: (3)
 
Neo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 12,672
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

As far as I can tell, OEM wheel offset is +45. The +35 will be 100 more towards the fender. The +35 offset should fit up front on the SC430. 18x8 +35 fits on the 2GS and I know the SC430 car take a bit more.

With the tires, I would stay the same size all around. Unless you are going with a staggered setup, trying to squeeze out a bit more on the rear is not worth it. As ELP_JC stated, I would not put more than the 245 on a 18x8 rim.

As for the shop's statement on the Opera 2, maybe he meant the bolt pattern

One last thing. Your eyes are not playing tricks on you with 20s. Most people who has 20s on their Lexus do have wheels that are about 1" LARGER than spec. This is due to a few reasons:

- Tire availability. Although some more sizes are becoming available, the 245/35 and 275/35 has more choices.

- Ride comfort. To be at OEM spec, you'd have to run 30 and 25 series tires. If you imagine the same wheel diameter as OEM and you increase the rim diameter, you get less and less tire sidewall. Less sidewall = less rubber (and stiffer) = less comfort.
Old 08-21-05, 04:31 AM
  #17  
camillian
Lead Lap
 
camillian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for all the info Neo.

And yes the opera 2 is 5 x 112 where as the lexus is 5 x 114 if I am not mistaken .
Old 08-21-05, 07:59 AM
  #18  
camillian
Lead Lap
 
camillian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 454
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default offset

where is the offset measurement taken from? I mean is + 45 the distance in milimetres from the fender to the wheel, the fender being 0? So an 8" depth wheel at +45 would be the same distance as a 10 " with +45 from the fender, the extra depth would be on the inside?

Thanks,
Mario
Old 08-21-05, 09:24 AM
  #19  
hageuzai
Rookie
 
hageuzai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: International
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by camillian
where is the offset measurement taken from? I mean is + 45 the distance in milimetres from the fender to the wheel, the fender being 0? So an 8" depth wheel at +45 would be the same distance as a 10 " with +45 from the fender, the extra depth would be on the inside?
+45 would mean that the surface of the wheel which is mounted to the car
is located 45mm torwards the outside measuring from the center of the hoop.
In other words, a +0 offset means that the wheel gets attached to the car
at the very center of the rim.

If you were to compare an 8" and 10" wheel, then an 8" +45 and 10" +70 would
be sitting at the same distance from the fender (although I have never heard of
such size as +70) and the extra depth goes on the inside.
Old 08-21-05, 04:52 PM
  #20  
Neo
The One
iTrader: (3)
 
Neo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SoCal
Posts: 12,672
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by camillian
where is the offset measurement taken from?
Maybe this pic will help:

Old 08-22-05, 02:44 AM
  #21  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 184 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Addiction2
more questions, guess I'm the only one who needs this education:

- When I see 20x8.5 I know what the 20 means, what does the 8.5 mean?
- I see a lot of cars that have 20x8.5 in the front run 20x10 in the back why?
- Is there a benifit to a multi-piece wheel?
- I typically don't get chrome wheels because I hear they require much more care and in areas where there is snow the salt will do real damage to them. Is this true?
for chrome, i just want to say that i would avoid it as much as i can. basically chrome makes metal weaker, that's a fact, so it's just always be weaker, meaning you bend it easier. and of course, with all the salt and stuff in the winter, that's more hazard too
Old 08-22-05, 02:47 AM
  #22  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 184 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by camillian
Wow I went to another shop like Rominl said.

This guy told me the Opera 2 PL by OZ in 19 and 20" are for Audi and mercedes fit only. The Opera 1 PL which only comes in 18" fit lexus.
That would be 18x 8 with +35 offset front and rear. I know the 18 x 8 is factory but what about the +35 offset. Is that also the same or does it come out a bit more?
Can I make these wheels work by going 245/40/18 in the front same as factory and maybe play with the numbers in the back. Say 265/35/18 and add some spacers to bring them out a bit. Can I go with a wider tire in the back if the rim depths are the same all around at 8"

These wheels are too good of a deal to pass up and they are alot nicer than the factory ones even though they are the same size?

Thanks,
Mario
mario, those are still not good enough imho. if you draw some diagrams and compare, i can tell you, 9 + 24 will fit on the car no problem, and that's almost as close to the outside as possible (for the front at least). and the 8 +35, that's 13mm more inboard!!!! you see the "problem" there?

and yes, unless you can find something more aggressive than the stock in terms of size and offset, continue shopping
Old 08-22-05, 02:48 AM
  #23  
rominl
exclusive matchup

iTrader: (4)
 
rominl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Lovely OC
Posts: 81,670
Received 184 Likes on 143 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by camillian
where is the offset measurement taken from? I mean is + 45 the distance in milimetres from the fender to the wheel, the fender being 0? So an 8" depth wheel at +45 would be the same distance as a 10 " with +45 from the fender, the extra depth would be on the inside?

Thanks,
Mario
neo already has the diagram up so i think that helps a lot already

to everyone, i am sorry i havent' gotten the guide up. in teh wheels/tires forum i already put all all information for the GS and the IS. now i have already studied enough on the SC430, i will find time and do the guide for the sc430 asap. hopefully after that you guys will have a much better reference
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JWBlakk
GS - 4th Gen (2013-2020)
11
10-27-17 08:13 AM
BigIron5
LS - 1st and 2nd Gen (1990-2000)
7
10-28-14 06:59 PM
Patrician
SC430 - 2nd Gen (2001-2010)
3
01-04-13 11:45 PM
100degrees
Wheels, Tires & Brakes Forum
5
06-13-12 04:29 AM
spine911
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
10
02-17-09 10:34 PM



Quick Reply: Wheels and tires 101



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:18 PM.