The Future Of The Sc's
05-13-13, 01:15 PM
#1
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The Future Of The Sc's
https://www.clublexus.com/articles/n...exus-lf-lc.php
I Just Comment On This Recent Post And Have Felt for The Longest That Were Moving In The Wrong direction Yes I Know Im Gonna See Comments About The LFA and The ISF And Also The Scion Boxer Powered FRS
But Does Toyota,Lexus Still Have It?
Is It So Hard To Give Us cars like The First Gen Sc300,Sc400 Or The Mk4 supra i know there Everything We Seem To Love Whether its looks,speed,style,power, Reliability,refinement . We Dont Get This Any More Ive Even Seen are Community Downsizing We No Longer Have Club NA-T and we Have Been Getting The same B.S post on CL for the longest What's Happening To Us ?
I Just Comment On This Recent Post And Have Felt for The Longest That Were Moving In The Wrong direction Yes I Know Im Gonna See Comments About The LFA and The ISF And Also The Scion Boxer Powered FRS
But Does Toyota,Lexus Still Have It?
Is It So Hard To Give Us cars like The First Gen Sc300,Sc400 Or The Mk4 supra i know there Everything We Seem To Love Whether its looks,speed,style,power, Reliability,refinement . We Dont Get This Any More Ive Even Seen are Community Downsizing We No Longer Have Club NA-T and we Have Been Getting The same B.S post on CL for the longest What's Happening To Us ?
05-13-13, 01:59 PM
#3
I wrote to Toyota about what I like to call a "Renaissance Edition" vehicle.
What do you guys think?
To whom it may concern,
I am writing to you as devoted driver, and enthusiast of import/tuner vehicles.
As a member of various forums, such as SupraFourms.com, and ClubLexus.com, I have entered some discussions regarding the future of your product-line, both in Toyota, and Lexus. That said, it's been realized that there will never be another Lexus SC300, regardless of how marvelous the LF-LC really is; and believe me, I love that car. However, granted its a nice car, the consensus is you dropped the ball, with production of the SC430.
So, Im offering a suggestion which I think may have some impact on the market, and would be interesting to see nonetheless.
Many of us (drivers/owners) truly love the vehicles we have, which you've produced for us; and regardless that there are newer models arriving, some of us have a special place in our hearts for some of these vehicles, and we'll never part with them - Particularly the Lexus SC300, and the late Toyota Supra. I mean, we are DEVOTED fans of these cars, and most of us, never only own just one, but either more than one at the same time, or we go back to one in the future, after having owned another vehicle. My current '97 SC300 is my second; prior to it I had a '92 SC300.
Thats the kind of commitment your users have to you and your product(s) ...
Therefore, my suggestion is this:
I personally think it would outstanding if manufacturers began to put out repeats of previous vehicles - call them the "Renaissance Edition". That is, the same cars, with the same motors (because we all know, and adore the 2JZ engines), but with some slight changes only that fit the times. I mean, do we really need a whole new model every year? Why??
I don't think thats what enthusiasts really care about. The average consumer might care, but only because it's a new car with zero-miles; nothing more. The average consumer isn't buying a "particularity" such as a $70-80K Nissan GT-R ...
However, a $30K Mitsubishi EVO, or $40K Toyota Supra, is realistic to the average middle-class buyer. Perhaps not in 1993- which was why Supra-TT sales weren't so high, but you have to understand, the Tuner-Culture/Market wasn't established yet. Today, you have different buyers, with different goals; bigger goals! I think such an endeavor would be feasible, and even strike-up a certain spark amongst buyers; I think it'd be revolutionary. After all, everyones asking about this "mythological" MK5 Supra we've been hearing of for more than a decade now, and still, nobody's seen it. Further, what concepts we have seen, aren't even as attractive as the MK4 Supra. I say, why bother? If it isn't broken, don't fix it!
Lexus is about the "pursuit of perfection" is it not?
Well sometimes, some things, are Perfect. Thats why they need-not be changed.
To further my suggestion, I say bring back the same car(s), but with a few contemporary upgrades, such as: a Formula 1 style "KERS" system, GPS Monitor, for the MK4 Toyota Supra. What about an SC300, but Turbocharged with an Active Suspension this time, as it had in the Soarer model, perhaps an Active Rear-Spoiler also, which pivots in response to a G-sensor?
That car (the SC300) even to this day is SO beautiful, and it's design - timeless, that people often ask me if my '97 is a 2000-something.
We don't need new models all the time.
Bring us a new-original; deliver us the "Renaissance Edition".
Same Car(s) - Added Features.
Thank you!
What do you guys think?
To whom it may concern,
I am writing to you as devoted driver, and enthusiast of import/tuner vehicles.
As a member of various forums, such as SupraFourms.com, and ClubLexus.com, I have entered some discussions regarding the future of your product-line, both in Toyota, and Lexus. That said, it's been realized that there will never be another Lexus SC300, regardless of how marvelous the LF-LC really is; and believe me, I love that car. However, granted its a nice car, the consensus is you dropped the ball, with production of the SC430.
So, Im offering a suggestion which I think may have some impact on the market, and would be interesting to see nonetheless.
Many of us (drivers/owners) truly love the vehicles we have, which you've produced for us; and regardless that there are newer models arriving, some of us have a special place in our hearts for some of these vehicles, and we'll never part with them - Particularly the Lexus SC300, and the late Toyota Supra. I mean, we are DEVOTED fans of these cars, and most of us, never only own just one, but either more than one at the same time, or we go back to one in the future, after having owned another vehicle. My current '97 SC300 is my second; prior to it I had a '92 SC300.
Thats the kind of commitment your users have to you and your product(s) ...
Therefore, my suggestion is this:
I personally think it would outstanding if manufacturers began to put out repeats of previous vehicles - call them the "Renaissance Edition". That is, the same cars, with the same motors (because we all know, and adore the 2JZ engines), but with some slight changes only that fit the times. I mean, do we really need a whole new model every year? Why??
I don't think thats what enthusiasts really care about. The average consumer might care, but only because it's a new car with zero-miles; nothing more. The average consumer isn't buying a "particularity" such as a $70-80K Nissan GT-R ...
However, a $30K Mitsubishi EVO, or $40K Toyota Supra, is realistic to the average middle-class buyer. Perhaps not in 1993- which was why Supra-TT sales weren't so high, but you have to understand, the Tuner-Culture/Market wasn't established yet. Today, you have different buyers, with different goals; bigger goals! I think such an endeavor would be feasible, and even strike-up a certain spark amongst buyers; I think it'd be revolutionary. After all, everyones asking about this "mythological" MK5 Supra we've been hearing of for more than a decade now, and still, nobody's seen it. Further, what concepts we have seen, aren't even as attractive as the MK4 Supra. I say, why bother? If it isn't broken, don't fix it!
Lexus is about the "pursuit of perfection" is it not?
Well sometimes, some things, are Perfect. Thats why they need-not be changed.
To further my suggestion, I say bring back the same car(s), but with a few contemporary upgrades, such as: a Formula 1 style "KERS" system, GPS Monitor, for the MK4 Toyota Supra. What about an SC300, but Turbocharged with an Active Suspension this time, as it had in the Soarer model, perhaps an Active Rear-Spoiler also, which pivots in response to a G-sensor?
That car (the SC300) even to this day is SO beautiful, and it's design - timeless, that people often ask me if my '97 is a 2000-something.
We don't need new models all the time.
Bring us a new-original; deliver us the "Renaissance Edition".
Same Car(s) - Added Features.
Thank you!
Last edited by SEIDO; 05-14-13 at 09:03 PM.
05-13-13, 02:00 PM
#4
Why Are You Writing Like This? It Is Very Difficult To Read If Each Word Sounds Like A New Sentence.
Are the number of active users on this forum actually going down? I think a mod can chime in and squash your fears that the SC popularity is dwindling. At least i assume those numbers are available somewhere.
Marko
Are the number of active users on this forum actually going down? I think a mod can chime in and squash your fears that the SC popularity is dwindling. At least i assume those numbers are available somewhere.
Marko
05-13-13, 02:32 PM
#6
I think Lexus really messed up after the first Gen SC. After 2000 they pretty much took an egg and stretched it and then threw an engine and wheels on it. Their could possibly be a chance that maybe the community is dwindling. Me personally, I think this is the greatest forum in the world. ALL HAIL CLUB LEXUS
05-13-13, 03:04 PM
#7
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05-13-13, 04:05 PM
#8
the next step should be an SC500,
Similar to our body style but a little more sleeker and sportier, with new features and interior, perhaps a tiptronic.
They dropped the ball BIG time with the SC430 its time for them to make up for it with a new model.
Similar to our body style but a little more sleeker and sportier, with new features and interior, perhaps a tiptronic.
They dropped the ball BIG time with the SC430 its time for them to make up for it with a new model.
05-13-13, 05:53 PM
#10
Why Are You Writing Like This? It Is Very Difficult To Read If Each Word Sounds Like A New Sentence.
Are the number of active users on this forum actually going down? I think a mod can chime in and squash your fears that the SC popularity is dwindling. At least i assume those numbers are available somewhere.
Marko
Are the number of active users on this forum actually going down? I think a mod can chime in and squash your fears that the SC popularity is dwindling. At least i assume those numbers are available somewhere.
Marko
The number of users may have gone up since a lot more people are buying older IS, GS, and SC's.
05-13-13, 06:00 PM
#12
Giving us the cars of yesteryear is not gonna happen. With the new regulations which are set for next year I believe car company's are forced to produce lower displacement motors to compete in the range department as well as marketing to the tree hugger society. Things which aren't bad but sucks the enthusiasm IMHO of the car builders. For lexus to make the LFA alone was a clear step back into the motorsport division which should trickle down to their other brands. Now for how long who knows. This IMHO is the very reason why i think the used car market is gonna fawkin explode in the next 5 years making previously owned cars not as cheap as they are now or were yesterday.
05-13-13, 06:01 PM
#13
I'm not sure if Toyota still has it to be honest. Supposedly the IS-F has been cancelled and there still isn't an SC430 successor. I read that the LF-LC coupe might come into production but it's still a few years away. I think if they want to stay competitive with BMW, Audi, and Mercedes they need to bring out another SC. Toyota keeps coming up with cool concept cars but none of them have hit the production stage.
The FRS and LFA were a step in the right direction. The cancellation of the IS-F and SC was two steps back.
The FRS and LFA were a step in the right direction. The cancellation of the IS-F and SC was two steps back.
05-13-13, 06:56 PM
#15
Lexus Test Driver
I think they need to make a new SC that resembles the original 1st gen more the way the Fairlady Z's have. I understand they want a new look, but they shouldn't stray too far from the original predecessor.