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Power steering WAY too soft/loose (just changed pump and rack/pinion)!

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Old 06-04-10, 06:02 PM
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Default Power steering WAY too soft/loose (just changed pump and rack/pinion)!

I just had both the power steering pump and rack and pinion changed in my 1992 SC4 (168k). Considering the age of the car and the mileage, I had a used pump and rack-and-pinion installed.


The steering feeling nothing like stock! It seems dangerously smooth. Fluid level is okay and I don't notice any odd noises when I turn the wheel. Alignment is done and there isn't any "play" in the wheel.

Is there an adjustment that my mechanic is overlooking -- something that may need to be tighten?

Please help!
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The steering on my sc is super smooth also. Smoother than any other car I driven. I think that is the way it should be. This was meant to be a luxury car.
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Maybe you have had such bad steering for a long time that this smooth steering is odd to you...My steering is smooth and glides very easily. Unless its like you tap the wheel to the right and it starts going full turns hahah
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It's speed sensitive. It should be very easy to turn at low speeds (parking), then stiffen up as you go faster (freeway).

However, if the computer does not get a speed signal, it's going to think you are parking all the time. So it would be too sensitive on the freeway.

I'd hook up a voltmeter to the power steering ecu and see what voltage it is sending to the rack while not moving and at various speeds.
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hmmm..thanks guys, very useful. I just got the car back today -- maybe I need to drive it a bit more. Going to take it out on the highway tomorrow and will report back.

btw..I paid $700 parts/labor for both items
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Originally Posted by labtec
hmmm..thanks guys, very useful. I just got the car back today -- maybe I need to drive it a bit more. Going to take it out on the highway tomorrow and will report back.

btw..I paid $700 parts/labor for both items
$700? Was this at a dealer? Because when I did mine I only paid $400 for a brand new rack n pinion and to redo the whole ps pump.
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Originally Posted by Qu0Cie
$700? Was this at a dealer? Because when I did mine I only paid $400 for a brand new rack n pinion and to redo the whole ps pump.
was this installed (with labor)? I hear it's about five hours of labor

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Originally Posted by labtec
was this installed (with labor)? I hear it's about five hours of labor
Yes that was parts and labor together.
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Originally Posted by Qu0Cie
Yes that was parts and labor together.
that's an absolute deal - amazing! Guess I should have shopped around..

btw: I drove the car on the highway and the steering does stiff up -- thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by DrLex
It's speed sensitive. It should be very easy to turn at low speeds (parking), then stiffen up as you go faster (freeway).

However, if the computer does not get a speed signal, it's going to think you are parking all the time. So it would be too sensitive on the freeway.

I'd hook up a voltmeter to the power steering ecu and see what voltage it is sending to the rack while not moving and at various speeds.
Can someone elaborate on this?

I'll be picking up an SC on Tuesday, and it is having steering problems. The best way for my to explain it is the steering response is extremely slow.
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wow. thats alot
as far as the speed goes, the ecu does have something to do with this, as well as the vacuum from the manifold. when drifting, i like it a little slower, so i put a gs3 (gen1) ps pump in.
also you may need to check and or change the rack bushings, upgrade to polyurathane.
i changed my rack in about 45 mins. its super easy. poly bushings were harder (they dont flex)
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So to be a little more specific as to what is happening...

After pulling into the street and straightening out, the steering wheel was at about 2o'clock. After a few seconds, the wheel finally clocked to 12 o'clock where it belonged. Then when turning the steering wheel, it will turn well before the actual wheels turn.
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