Question to all car enthusiasts
#16
It's like getting that hot girl in high school that everyone lusted for. Once you've had it it's like...ehh, is that all? You build this great image of XYZ modded car and once you're there its aura isn't quite the same. Move on to your next vision. I know I have 2943879483493 different types of cars & hybrid motor swaps (LSX, mainly) I'd like to build, I could never have enough time and money to build them all. LSX swapped E92 M3 or a Range Rover Sport. 72 Olds Wagon with an LS. 1992 Toyota pick up (reg cab) with a 1UZFE. Datsun 510 with an S2K motor or the Aurora 4.0 V8. The list goes on and on to infinity.
Or a C5 Z06 around a road course? Or a E36/E46 M3. The SC is a comfortable highway cruiser car, but it was never intended as a hardcore performance car. I love it as a cruiser but it would never substitute as a track toy over a C5Z.
Or a C5 Z06 around a road course? Or a E36/E46 M3. The SC is a comfortable highway cruiser car, but it was never intended as a hardcore performance car. I love it as a cruiser but it would never substitute as a track toy over a C5Z.
#19
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I agree with both of these statements. The 2JZGTE+V160 is a legendary drivetrain and always will be. From a different era, so are the Ford 427+4-speed, Ford 429 Hemi+4-speed, Chrysler 426 Hemi (or 440)+4-speed, Chevy 454+4-speed and probably the Viper 8.4L V10. The Buick GN 3.8L V6 turbo engine should also be included but it's closer in spirit to the 2JZGTE and is auto-only.
Different approaches from different companies with wildly varying availability and price. But Toyota has yet to best their first and still only legendary engine. I don't count the LF-A V10 because it's unobtanium and no one is going to modify it the way any of the above mentioned bulletproof engines have been for decades.
As for the bang for the buck with the SC chassis in general... that's a no brainer there, aside from cosmetic interior restoration parts being difficult to obtain sometimes.
Different approaches from different companies with wildly varying availability and price. But Toyota has yet to best their first and still only legendary engine. I don't count the LF-A V10 because it's unobtanium and no one is going to modify it the way any of the above mentioned bulletproof engines have been for decades.
As for the bang for the buck with the SC chassis in general... that's a no brainer there, aside from cosmetic interior restoration parts being difficult to obtain sometimes.
#20
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What I meant about the 1LR-GUE V10 from the LF-A is that while it will absolutely be remembered and revered it won't be tested and pushed tremendously far beyond factory output (or ever be as ubiquitous) as a common world-beating muscle car engine the way the 1JZ-GTE and 2JZ-GTE have been for at least a couple decades now. But that's also apples to oranges.
I should have better clarified the context I was using when stating that the turbo JZ series was Toyota's only legendary engine. They have several of course and they all fill different roles. I just feel that the JZ series is the closest of their many great designs that hit the same everyman/bulletproof/stratospheric-horsepower/swap-into-anything/plentiful-and-available characteristics that many of the best classic big block American (and Australian I might add) V8's from the 60's through early 70's represented.
Now beyond that specific context of comparison I completely agree with you that Toyota has made MANY legendary engines and I stand corrected if I implied otherwise. The xJZ-GTE is only one of them.
And now I'm going to mind the thread topic, myself
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