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Old 11-23-11, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RedPhoenix

sucks for the 2jz owners, heavy cast iron block....1uz is lighter... essentially I guess a 1uz sc can be lighter... but stock they are heavier, go figure.
I really wonder if there's really that much of a difference in weight. The 1uz has four cams, bigger crank, more rods ( heavier pre '95). If the sc300 and 400 are identical in every other aspect I would think the engine and tranny would be the culprit in making it heavier
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I'm exploring a new idea of making this more of a track car vs.
the original post of keeping more street luxuries in the car.

I'm still open to anything in between since ill likely decide how
far I wanna go depending on how much I enjoy it on the track.

But either way, this wouldn't be a daily driver.
But I like having the option.
Old 11-24-11, 06:06 AM
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Iam going for a balance in mine. Racing seats but no back ones. And keeping the sunroof and ac. So a fast midlife crisis car. My rb s13 is 2700lbs with half a tank and nothing but full interior. My sc will never be that weight. Hence the need for mutiple cars.
Old 11-24-11, 07:56 PM
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I think SC's around 3100 are fun to drive, i had an s13 that weighed 2200lbs and it wasn't always predictable, especially in the rain, it was sometimes scary.
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Originally Posted by SEXC
I really wonder if there's really that much of a difference in weight. The 1uz has four cams, bigger crank, more rods ( heavier pre '95). If the sc300 and 400 are identical in every other aspect I would think the engine and tranny would be the culprit in making it heavier
Not this **** again.


Complete 1uzfe motor without tranny is about 450 lbs.

Complete 2jzgte motor without tranny is about 594 lbs.

I don't know how much just a GE weighs, but I suspect still more than the 1UZ.
Old 11-25-11, 06:26 PM
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Ill be happy with 3150 lbs. Also going for a lighter weight battery.
Old 11-26-11, 12:52 AM
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The heavy cast-iron block and rotating assembly that is the 2JZ-GE may be weightier than a 1UZ-FE but it is the reason why ridiculous boost is so sustainable in these cars. Other than the engineering it is also why the I6 lasts so long whether turbocharged or stock. I like the V8 cars and they probably can be made slightly lighter but I'll take the tank-like nature of both the chassis and drivetrain in either car.

You now what other cars were heavy? Early 70's Camaros (around 3,500lbs one year). Any muscle car or semi-luxurious (for the time) Chrysler or Plymouth that had powerful 383 or 440 engine options such as the two-door 1973 Satellites. They are heavy, heavy cars. They also were fast cars if optioned with big enough V8's or modified/swapped in the hands of young second or third owners. Some of them even looked cool, but you'd have to like American muscle cars to see it I guess.

The 1986-87 Buick Grand Nationals and T-Types were also heavy tanks but those V6 turbos were killer. They didn't have near the build quality or handling the SC's have either but that's another story-- we're just talking about curb weight. Plenty of sporty RWD two door cars back into the 1960's were not lightweight.

The SC is just one of the better such heavy semi-GT performance chassis ever designed. At least in Soarer spec it was viewed as such.

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Originally Posted by LunaVyohr
Not this **** again.


Complete 1uzfe motor without tranny is about 450 lbs.

Complete 2jzgte motor without tranny is about 594 lbs.

I don't know how much just a GE weighs, but I suspect still more than the 1UZ.
If you don't know the weight of the GE then your post is worthless Have a wonderful day
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Thats the hobby aspect of my car is to make it the way I want it, Lighter.
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Originally Posted by SEXC
If you don't know the weight of the GE then your post is worthless Have a wonderful day
Found out that the weight of the GE is 'about' 500lbs. So, still heavier than the 1UZ.
Old 11-26-11, 04:42 PM
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okay people. but you are talking about a engine with 2 heavy *** turbos vs a big *** v8 with no turbos. when i chucked my 1uz it was really heavy. and bulky. the 1jz with turbos and now with no turbos makes you confident you and a friend can "team lift" the damn thing. i still don't believe a 1uz is lighter..
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Originally Posted by megamax
okay people. but you are talking about a engine with 2 heavy *** turbos vs a big *** v8 with no turbos. when i chucked my 1uz it was really heavy. and bulky. the 1jz with turbos and now with no turbos makes you confident you and a friend can "team lift" the damn thing. i still don't believe a 1uz is lighter..
Take into account what they're made of(material) not what they are....One way find out.
Take both motors out and weigh them. Don't forget to take pictures.
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Originally Posted by megamax
okay people. but you are talking about a engine with 2 heavy *** turbos vs a big *** v8 with no turbos. when i chucked my 1uz it was really heavy. and bulky. the 1jz with turbos and now with no turbos makes you confident you and a friend can "team lift" the damn thing. i still don't believe a 1uz is lighter..
Well, I'm sorry, but it just is. Like I posted above, the GE is still 50lb heavier than the 1UZ.
Old 11-26-11, 06:22 PM
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The 1uz is made from aluminum. The 2jz is made from iron. Iron >>Aluminum in weight.
Old 11-26-11, 09:09 PM
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Also weigh equal accessories and less trannies.
Either motor has to be lighter than a friggin 300zx vg motor.
That was another car I was looking at before


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