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Karmotion Carbon Fiber "Vega" 92-96 front lip, now available

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Old 08-23-08, 02:05 PM
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I wouldn't say the market is dead for the SC...at least out here in WA, the SC is starting to get more and more popular. There are quite a few people, including me, that've switched over from Nissans to the SC.

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Old 08-23-08, 03:08 PM
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Hey Raceonusa I dont know whos car this is but if you can make this exact lip I ll be the first to buy it....... Actualy can you really make it bcuz i really want one


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Old 08-23-08, 06:23 PM
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Thats a modified oem lip off an old SC4
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Old 08-23-08, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Matador
Thats a modified oem lip off an old SC4
Yep

RaceOn, if you guys can make that lip i'll buy it as soon as it's available!
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Old 08-23-08, 08:36 PM
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posting to support the need for a 97+ lip
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Old 08-23-08, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by boobstar
posting to support the need for a 97+ lip

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Old 08-23-08, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by high0ncarz
Not bad. Hope you can get the 97+ out soon
just get the vertex lip... looks exactly the same but a little pricier.
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Old 08-23-08, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Matador
Thats a modified oem lip off an old SC4
there's a diy for it, but if it can be had for a good price it might be feasible to produce.
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Old 08-23-08, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
just get the vertex lip... looks exactly the same but a little pricier.
Yea i think i will.. or big win
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Old 08-23-08, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mr2tosc4
there's a diy for it, but if it can be had for a good price it might be feasible to produce.
yea i know theres a DiY for the lip but he fails to answer the questions on how he got the lip to fit with the nice shape on the sides. So w.e. i just hope Raceonusa makes it so that i could just buy it .... wiSh they had that "Easy" Button for something like this..

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Old 08-24-08, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mr2tosc4
Hint: make it look exactly like a big win front lip, make it fit exactly like a big win front lip, price it MUCH LOWER than a big win front lip = you win us over
I never cease to be amazed at some of the comments on the SC forum. The SC is a beautiful car, stock, or tastefully modded. It is a difficult car to mod for the masses because it is expensive to bring back to stock condition, especially since many of the recent buyers of the car are in many cases the 4th owner or beyond of the car, and it has probably been neglected in many ways as well as driven many miles on the original stock parts. Yet, even then, the car can run very smoothly, and still has its original appeal. Most of the recent buyers are pretty young, and this further makes it challenging to mod, or to repair because these proud owners are are just getting started in life, and money may not yet be in abundance. With that said, here are my thoughts for what they are worth:
  • First, Kudos to RaceOnUSA/Karmotion for even coming out with any products for the SC, as demand is not generally high for parts. Even more to them for being made of CF.
  • To make them out of CF and copy the Big Win Lip, and cost much lower? This is not possible. CF is very expensive to produce, and the raw materials are also very expensive. I own the Big Win Lip. I bought it during the Group Buy that Carson ran on it a long time ago. The Lip cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of $350 - $380 plus shipping, if I remember correctly. From what I can tell, the lip is made of FRP, which is basically fiberglass. This is significantly cheaper material than CF. It is highly unlikely that this can be made for less than the Big Win Lip.
  • If you want CF parts, especially quality ones, expect to pay a premium price for them. They are never cheap.
  • Remember, you are not modding a Honda here. Prices will always be much more expensive than aftermarket Honda parts. Plus, Civics and Accords are everywhere. Many, many more were produced and sold than the SC. Aftermarket parts abound for them. Both cheap and quality parts.
  • Most of you stepped into a Lexus because you liked the car, and you felt you were stepping up. You did. I believe the SC came out with a MSRP of over $40k in 92. What was Civic or an Accord in 92?
Enough said...Try to keep it on track here. The thread is about the CF lip for the 92-96 SC. Help the vendor out because he is trying to serve the community. $360 is a good price for a CF lip, especially if it is well made. Go try to get a one-off made and see what it will cost you, if you can even get a manufacturer to make it...

Ryan

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Old 08-24-08, 11:34 PM
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well put ryan... Ill add to that, I made my carbon fiber lip. It consists of 4 layers of 2x2 twill weave carbon and 1132 series resin with UV resistant agent added. Then I used vacuum infusion to make it.

Run down on cost:

carbon (4 sq/yrds) raw fabric $300
resin/hardener (14 oz) $10
vacuum bag materials $200
mold for part (all materials) $250

total: about $760 not including my time to build the mold by hand and all the fitting and finishing work. I think this lip is a great deal for a mass produced part especially since the sc is two years away from having replacement part production drastically cut down. I've made many carbon pieces for my cars and even some for friends exotics and let me tell you... from the pics the quality of the lip looks to be on par with most of the carbon pieces you can get for lambos and ferraris.

good stuff raceon
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Old 08-25-08, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by -MILTDOG-
Sweet CF Lip, Whats the CL member discount price, lol?
this may look pretty good on your car....

I think he said he'll give 50% off for the first guy to try it...i say go for it!
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Old 08-25-08, 09:51 AM
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well i appreciate u raceon. i'll be purchasing this lip in 2 weeks. now for a matching spoiler (trunk and roof)
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Old 08-25-08, 11:14 AM
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Make one for 97+ pls.
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