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Has anyone gotten their tires rotated at a local tire shop, primarily firestone shops? Do they measure the torque tightness of the wheel locks? i know they use air guns, i just want to make sure before i go there. Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by hoodlum081
Has anyone gotten their tires rotated at a local tire shop, primarily firestone shops? Do they measure the torque tightness of the wheel locks? i know they use air guns, i just want to make sure before i go there. Thanks in advance.
i would call and ask them, and reiterate when you take it there

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I agree with lexus114. Each Firestone will do things differently, and each person at a given shop will have their preferences. Before entering the customer waiting area, I would watch a car in the bay that is in the final stages of wheel installation and watch to see if a torque wrench is being used. It looks like a ratchet wrench, but typically with a VERY long handle, like three feet. Not for extra torque, but ease of use.
Also, I would mention it to the service writer, just to have it on the work order.
BTW, my experience of my local Firestone is that they over-inflate and upsell. For me, they tended to recommend services that may or may not be necessary. JMHO
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Manual torque wrench is a very easy question to ask while booking a visit.
Many shops use torque sticks on the airguns. They look like a 6"-8" ratchet extension but have a hex socket forged into one end. They will stop rotating at a fixed torque rate or a range.
You'll see them as sets of about 6, all in different colours. The colour indicates the torque range.
I'll keep my faith in the old-fashioned torque wrench.
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Originally Posted by SteveCraig
Manual torque wrench is a very easy question to ask while booking a visit.
Many shops use torque sticks on the airguns. They look like a 6"-8" ratchet extension but have a hex socket forged into one end. They will stop rotating at a fixed torque rate or a range.
You'll see them as sets of about 6, all in different colours. The colour indicates the torque range.
I'll keep my faith in the old-fashioned torque wrench.
As far as I know these torque sticks only work properly if the air pressure on the shop compressor is not turned up too high. If the compressor is turned up even using a torque stick will over-tighten wheels. A friend of mine tried this using his own torque sticks and his own compressor, then checked the results with a manual torque wrench.

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Originally Posted by hoodlum081
Has anyone gotten their tires rotated at a local tire shop, primarily firestone shops? Do they measure the torque tightness of the wheel locks? i know they use air guns, i just want to make sure before i go there. Thanks in advance.
As Firestone must do, God knows how many tire rotations each week/month/year, what are the (real) issues with a wheel that is not torqued exactly to specs?
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Originally Posted by GregT
As Firestone must do, God knows how many tire rotations each week/month/year, what are the (real) issues with a wheel that is not torqued exactly to specs?
I would say the real issues with not torquing wheels to specifications is (1) Too tight and wheels will not come off using wheel wrench in the event of a road side flat and warping rotors using an impact gun. (2) Too loose and wheels fall off.

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Originally Posted by novaman
I would say the real issues with not torquing wheels to specifications is (1) Too tight and wheels will not come off using wheel wrench in the event of a road side flat and warping rotors using an impact gun. (2) Too loose and wheels fall off.

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too tight is not good, ie not be able to get wheel off if flat tire on side of road. plus warps rotors as well.
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Too much torque stretches overly stretches the bolt or stud. A fixed torque setting will ensure the bolt is stretched to an amount based on the steel rating used. Yes, they actually get longer as you tighten them.
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