RX vs 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
#16
The Grand Cherokee doesn't feature here on the shopping list of 4x4's in the pockets of the guys that travel up in Africa. These harsh judges of off-road ability can usually be taken seriously, cause getting stuck somewhere in Central Africa can really spoil your day.
#17
It is Toyota reliability that keeps me returning to the Lexus dealership. My DD has always been a Toyota product, but we have owned other makes as well. Each non-Toyota vehicle have left a sour taste in my mouth. Dealing with repairs, even under warranty, is not something I am willing to spend my time on.
#18
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Agree totally. Being blindsided by car repairs is no fun at all. Especially in Africa, as mentioned below Come to think of it, when I was in Africa in 1969, all vehicles were Toyota. No issues at all in 2 weeks driving all over the jungles and plains. We sure did appreciate that.
#19
Last December I was looking to upgrade from my 2005 rx330 to either the Jeep or a CPO 2011 rx350. After going on some discussion forums, was horrified by all the nightmare stories about transmission and infotainment system issues on brand new Grand Cherokees. Thought better of it and went with the 2011 CPO with 31,000 miles for $31,000. You should keep in mind that the rx should be all new for 2016 model year. You could go with a CPO for two years and then trade in for new one. There should be a lot of 2011's around coming off lease, even 2012's. Regards. Ned.
#20
Just going to +1 to everything said above particularly with reliability of Chrysler vehicles. Throw in the total cost of repairs over the life of the vehicle and you can easily add 10k to the price for a GC.
#21
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1 ton Toyota Diesel Landcruiser was the only thing that lasted more than a couple years in the environment. It was severely hard on vehicles.
Have a flat tire ? Cost was about $ 25K to repair it.
Break every stud getting the tire off. Break the leaf springs & most other suspension components getting the spindle off. It just got better with rear suspension issue. Drive shafts, U-joints, axles etc..
#22
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Worked a short term underground in a potash mine about 25 years ago.
1 ton Toyota Diesel Landcruiser was the only thing that lasted more than a couple years in the environment. It was severely hard on vehicles.
Have a flat tire ? Cost was about $ 25K to repair it.
Break every stud getting the tire off. Break the leaf springs & most other suspension components getting the spindle off. It just got better with rear suspension issue. Drive shafts, U-joints, axles etc..
1 ton Toyota Diesel Landcruiser was the only thing that lasted more than a couple years in the environment. It was severely hard on vehicles.
Have a flat tire ? Cost was about $ 25K to repair it.
Break every stud getting the tire off. Break the leaf springs & most other suspension components getting the spindle off. It just got better with rear suspension issue. Drive shafts, U-joints, axles etc..
However, the guy in the US, just wanting a nice SUV, like the Grand Cherokee, have of course not the same concerns as someone, who want's to go to Mount Ruwenzori to check out the wild gorillas.
#23
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I'm getting off track here but :
Even by today's standards the old Landcruisers are unbeatable.Simple yet durable. Comfort was an after thought.
When the mine needed a waste area for equipment they cut a huge cavern in the side of the drift. Mining equipment such as loaders, drills etc. Piles & piles of 1 year old Rangers, 1 year old CJ's underneath them.
Even by today's standards the old Landcruisers are unbeatable.Simple yet durable. Comfort was an after thought.
When the mine needed a waste area for equipment they cut a huge cavern in the side of the drift. Mining equipment such as loaders, drills etc. Piles & piles of 1 year old Rangers, 1 year old CJ's underneath them.
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Still undecided. There have been some pretty decent reviews of the latest version of the Grand Cherokee although not quite as stellar as the RX. The interest in the Grand Cherokee was mainly the styling, size, towing capacity and styling. We'd pick-up the 4x4 in either Lexus or Jeep but won't find ourselves on the side of Mt. Kilimanjaro any time soon so that type of performance isn't really a deal breaker.
Chances are we'll find ourselves in a 2015 RX 350 AWD once we make the move from AZ to VA in September. Maybe even wait for the Dec to Remember sales event.....either way I'm sure you see me post in the "2015 below invoice" thread. Only thing that may screw us up is the debut of the 2016 Nissan Titan. We bought the 04 new (great truck) and have been waiting for the redesign ever since.
Jeep will still be part of the family since the 2011 IS350 AWD will be making an exit this year for the 2015 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Hydro Blue.....very sharp.
Thanks for all the input, lots of great experience here.
Chances are we'll find ourselves in a 2015 RX 350 AWD once we make the move from AZ to VA in September. Maybe even wait for the Dec to Remember sales event.....either way I'm sure you see me post in the "2015 below invoice" thread. Only thing that may screw us up is the debut of the 2016 Nissan Titan. We bought the 04 new (great truck) and have been waiting for the redesign ever since.
Jeep will still be part of the family since the 2011 IS350 AWD will be making an exit this year for the 2015 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Hydro Blue.....very sharp.
Thanks for all the input, lots of great experience here.
#26
All the rough terrain areas I've been to, including Africa and the Middle East... the 4x4 of choice by everyone are Toyotas.
95% of 4x4 vehicles are Landcruiser, Hilux, and Prado. Lexus SUVs also are popular for the rich people.
Period.
95% of 4x4 vehicles are Landcruiser, Hilux, and Prado. Lexus SUVs also are popular for the rich people.
Period.
#27
Still undecided. There have been some pretty decent reviews of the latest version of the Grand Cherokee although not quite as stellar as the RX. The interest in the Grand Cherokee was mainly the styling, size, towing capacity and styling. We'd pick-up the 4x4 in either Lexus or Jeep but won't find ourselves on the side of Mt. Kilimanjaro any time soon so that type of performance isn't really a deal breaker.
Chances are we'll find ourselves in a 2015 RX 350 AWD once we make the move from AZ to VA in September. Maybe even wait for the Dec to Remember sales event.....either way I'm sure you see me post in the "2015 below invoice" thread. Only thing that may screw us up is the debut of the 2016 Nissan Titan. We bought the 04 new (great truck) and have been waiting for the redesign ever since.
Jeep will still be part of the family since the 2011 IS350 AWD will be making an exit this year for the 2015 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Hydro Blue.....very sharp.
Thanks for all the input, lots of great experience here.
Chances are we'll find ourselves in a 2015 RX 350 AWD once we make the move from AZ to VA in September. Maybe even wait for the Dec to Remember sales event.....either way I'm sure you see me post in the "2015 below invoice" thread. Only thing that may screw us up is the debut of the 2016 Nissan Titan. We bought the 04 new (great truck) and have been waiting for the redesign ever since.
Jeep will still be part of the family since the 2011 IS350 AWD will be making an exit this year for the 2015 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Hydro Blue.....very sharp.
Thanks for all the input, lots of great experience here.
#29
Anyone compare the Overland to the AWD 350? What were your thoughts and what pushed you over to Lexus?
I'm not sure if we're sold on the ECO Diesel so we were looking at the V8 but no matter the engine option they were over 50K for the AWD. I think the obvious would be the offroad capabilities would go to Jeep and I think the interior is bigger but the seats felt narrow and stiff in the leather.
Also, we're moving to VA in about 3 months so I'm a little undecided if we should wait to buy. Would I get a better deal in VA as opposed to Gilbert, AZ where tax is a little higher (8%)?
Anyone have experience with Phoenix Lexus and Jeep dealers? Earnhardt Jeep in Gilbert in particular. Probably get more wiggle room out of the Jeep.
I'm not sure if we're sold on the ECO Diesel so we were looking at the V8 but no matter the engine option they were over 50K for the AWD. I think the obvious would be the offroad capabilities would go to Jeep and I think the interior is bigger but the seats felt narrow and stiff in the leather.
Also, we're moving to VA in about 3 months so I'm a little undecided if we should wait to buy. Would I get a better deal in VA as opposed to Gilbert, AZ where tax is a little higher (8%)?
Anyone have experience with Phoenix Lexus and Jeep dealers? Earnhardt Jeep in Gilbert in particular. Probably get more wiggle room out of the Jeep.
Between the 2 if you're looking for a commuter car, the RX is your one and only choice.
Between the 2 if you're looking for a play car that you might occasionally go rock climbing, sand and dirty road trails, Grand Cherokee 4WD should be considered over the RX.
#30
At the shops in my area if you take your Lexus in for service and the expected repair is less than 2 hours you do not receive a loaner vehicle. That time is only for the repair. It does not include the amount of time to get it into a bay nor the car wash afterwards.