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Old 05-26-14, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by felix168
so you're contradicting the people at Mobil 1?

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Frequency.aspx

quote: Since one of the key engine oil tasks is to keep internal components clean and free from varnish and harmful deposits, when the oil is drained, the contaminants are removed with it, so it is normal for the oil to be black as it comes out of the engine and it may still conserve its properties even if the color of the oil is black.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...Motor_Oil.aspx

quote: Motor oils contain detergent and dispersant additives that suspend contaminants and combustion by-products. This can be the reason why the oil may look dirty or black, meaning the oil is doing its job.
Felix, Thank you for the links. I will sleep better tonight.
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Old 05-27-14, 09:28 AM
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It should not be a problem if they change it to the right oil immediately.

If you did not change the oil it could be a problem. If you use 10w30 during breakin, the piston rings may not seat properly. The result is that the engine may burn oil more than normal. We are having this problem with the Subaru Outback at the moment.
Old 05-27-14, 12:05 PM
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The synthetic oil comes out as dark amber after about 7-8K miles of use in both of my Lexuses.
Synthetic will stick to the surface, while dyno will roll right off. So, technically, you could say which oil was used just by looking at the dipstick.
I would say, replace the oil after 5K and call it a day. It is not worth spending $30 for oil analysis if the oil itself will cost almost as much.
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Originally Posted by vlad_a
The synthetic oil comes out as dark amber after about 7-8K miles of use in both of my Lexuses.
Synthetic will stick to the surface, while dyno will roll right off. So, technically, you could say which oil was used just by looking at the dipstick.
I would say, replace the oil after 5K and call it a day. It is not worth spending $30 for oil analysis if the oil itself will cost almost as much.
Thanks Vlad A, good info. I am going to continue changing at regular intervals and not analyze.
Ray A.

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Old 05-28-14, 04:08 PM
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So many article lately about using wrong oil to the engine will cause some engine problem in the long run,and extending oil change interval will do good or bad,economic sense.
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Originally Posted by LeoDLion
It should not be a problem if they change it to the right oil immediately.

If you did not change the oil it could be a problem. If you use 10w30 during breakin, the piston rings may not seat properly. The result is that the engine may burn oil more than normal. We are having this problem with the Subaru Outback at the moment.
Subaru flats burn oil. That's a fact. Subaru people attribute it to improper break-in process. Their favorite oil, is thicker Rotella T6 5W40.
A coworker of mine blown the engine on his Forester because he wasn't keeping an eye on the oil level. He was very surprised to learn, no such procedure is required if you drive a Toyota.
One of my friends is absolutely certain his GF's Forester burns oil because of using 0W20 from the get-go.
If anything, dyno oil has been recommended for the break-in process. 10w30 is good oil to use in warm climates.

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Old 06-03-14, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by vlad_a

Subaru flats burn oil. That's a fact. Subaru people attribute it to improper break-in process. Their favorite oil, is thicker Rotella T6 5W40.
A coworker of mine blown the engine on his Forester because he wasn't keeping an eye on the oil level. He was very surprised to learn, no such procedure is required if you drive a Toyota.
One of my friends is absolutely certain his GF's Forester burns oil because of using 0W20 from the get-go.
If anything, dyno oil has been recommended for the break-in process. 10w30 is good oil to use in warm climates.
Subaru ' s have their own demons with oil issues and viscosity breakdown with their turbo models when using less than a 40 weight oil. Both NA subaru and turbo models often lose oil through a stuck pcv as the main culprit. On these Lexus/Toyota it's not a problem with a few year exceptions like early 1st gen RX300
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