mlerskine

I'm new to my '14 RX with AWD. I'm about to cross a mountain pass on an interstate with plenty of snow. The car has the Dunlops it came with. I know the state patrol does not require chains on cars with AWD, but does anyone use them on their RX (and which wheels- front or back, or should I avoid using them because of clearence issues?

JDR76

According to the manual, if you do use them, put them on the front tires:

■Tire chain installation
Observe the following precautions when installing and removing chains:
●Install and remove tire chains in a safe location.
●Install tire chains on the front tires only. Do not install tire chains on the rear tires.
●Install the tire chains on front tires as tightly as possible. Retighten chains after
driving 1/4 ⎯ 1/2 mile (0.5 ⎯ 1.0 km).
●Install tire chains following the instructions provided with the tire chains.

http://drivers.lexus.com/t3Portal/do.../sec_02-05.pdf

mlerskine

Thanks JDR76!

JDR76

Anytime!

JDR76

Washington State Patrol, on it's own web site states that AWD (not only 4WD) is exempt from the chains requirement as long as the gears to all wheels are enabled and chains for one set of tires are carried in the vehicle. In the RX, gears to the rear wheels are always enabled, and can be locked if necessary.

Please explain how chains on the front will make it more hazardous. We should probably notify Lexus so they can take this dangerous configuration out of the owner's manual…

RX330inFL

I am wondering if the WSP web site is using information based on the previous generation of RX. The 2nd Generation RX AWD system is described as follows:

Advanced All-Wheel Drive
The AWD RX 350 model features a viscous limited-slip center differential, which enhances drivability in all types of driving conditions. The full-time AWD system provides a constant 50/50 front-to-rear power split. If slippage occurs, the viscous differential directs torque to the wheels with the most traction.

So, as you can see there is a difference in how the AWD system works in the newer 3rd Generation RX vehicles when compared to the previous generation. Will not speak for the 1st Generation folks. As a result, information does not get updated when it should and individuals begin to confuse the two lumping them all in one camp or the other. Personally, I would think the Owner's Manual would be more correct than anything from a government agency.

I believe another confusing item which has been mentioned before here on CL is that the new RX AWD do not have a badge on the vehicle indicating it is such as in years past.

JDR76

There is no information on the WASP web site specific to the RX, so I'm not sure I follow you. The web site simply states that both 4WD and AWD negate the requirement for chains.

So according to your description in your post, the RX meets this requirement.

JDR76

Just for reference, here's the actual verbiage from the WASP FAQ page, about chains requirements:

"I have an all-wheel or four-wheel drive vehicle. When "Chains Required" signs are posted, do I have to use chains?

No. All-wheel drive vehicles are exempt from chain requirements when all wheels are in gear and are equipped with approved traction devices, provided that tire chains for at least one set of drive tires are carried in the vehicle. See WAC 204-24-050."

The RX AWD system is always in gear, but even so, can be locked if required, and of course chains can be carried, so yes, with all season tires, the RX meets this requirement and can go across the pass without chains when chains are required, just like other AWD and 4WD SUVs.

As for whether or not an officer is going to believe you that it is AWD, and not just FWD, frankly it seems a little silly. If you've been through this situation on the passes here, you know that cars line up for miles in the backup, and the officers patrolling really don't have time to argue with you over this. They simply ask if you have AWD/4WD and chains or not and that's it. They don't check for emblems or anything else. If it was an issue, I suppose you could always show them the center lock switch, or keep your window sticker in the glove box, to show them your vehicle is equipped with the system, but I have never had this issue before, in many, many years of frequent trips over the mountain passes.

splee99

I have driven to many snow area with 4WD/AWD, never used chains. I think with the RX350 you could lock the differentials in emergency cases, but you don't have to do that usually.

tromly

Great info, well said sir!

jgr7

iTrader: (1)

Im on my 3rd AWD RX the latest is 2014 RX350 Fsport and I don't remember ever seeing any AWD badging on any RX, only a VSC badge on some of the 2001 and newer RX300s.

Nimimi

I called Lexus of Bellevue and they recommended Autosock (which they sell for $99-it's made in Norway). This is a non-metallic alternative to chains and is approved by WSP for use when chains are required. Les Schwab wouldn't even sell me chains for my '13 RX!

Plus, the Autosock, if you use it, will not scratch up your wheels!

mlerskine

Thanks for everyone's input, and also to my Washington state neighbors! Going to Bellevue Lexus today to pick up the Autosock. Looks like this is all I need to point to whether on the wheels or not in case a WA State trooper asks if I have "chains" which, according to their site, I need to have in possession when they deem "required".

Thanks again everyone!