2010 RX 350 design flaw

[Joe G]

Originally Posted by The G Man

Joe G, did your insurance company pay for the damage?

Our insurance company issued a check to replace the radiator.
Raditor was installed and car is still running hot.
Dealership in N.J. needs to diagnois further. They cannot proceed any further until our insurance adjuster returns, which should be tomorrow, 8/28.
Reminder, car is in N.J., we live on L.I. N.Y.
Plan and simple, due to this needed modification we are now responsible for an insurance claim (that is growing, and we are still working with them to get our towing bill and cab fare reimbursed), an "accident" on our record, and payments on a highend SUV that we are still without.
Lexus Corporate has determined "this case is closed, we hold no responsibility."
Thank you for asking and your support.
Live and learn, hope this does not happen to any other RX owner.

[HaimK]

Problem pairing Nokia E71 with my 2010 RX350

1 Pairing with the Nokia E71 works

2 After pairing the phone gets fully connected. I can make phone calls and the phone's contact list becomes visible on the car's display.

3 When I shut down the car and restart, reconnection is established for about one second, but then disconnects immediately.

4 After a second shut down/restart of the car, no reconnection happens (even not for a second)

5 The only way for it to work I need to pair the phone each time i get into the car.


I never had a problem with my 2007 RX350 using the same phone and I don't really feel like changing my E71.

Thanks, Haim

[The G Man]

Just ti be fair Joe, I dont think any car company would take responsibility for something like this.

[Joe G]

Originally Posted by The G Man

Just ti be fair Joe, I dont think any car company would take responsibility for something like this.

Fair is fair. We will continue to deal with our insurance company.
Feeling is as the owner of this SUV we should not have to install the screen/mesh to prevent this from happening again, but will.
We know perfection is hard, but improving a vehichle to be better is what we would hope Lexus would strive for.
Again, this would be an easy fix so the risk would be eliminated.
Thanks again.

[ajs]

Is there a screen covering available for the '10 RX350? I would also be interested in installing one. This sounds scary

[4482]

Originally Posted by ajs

Is there a screen covering available for the '10 RX350? I would also be interested in installing one. This sounds scary

I made mine out of two pieces of gutter guard for my 05 RX. It was easy to install in it, but I've not looked at my 2010 yet for ease of install.

[4482]

Originally Posted by 4482

I made mine out of two pieces of gutter guard for my 05 RX. It was easy to install in it, but I've not looked at my 2010 yet for ease of install.

Here's the thread on how the gutter guard was used to protect the condenser on the 2nd generation models. I just checked my 10 RX and it looks like it might be a little harder to do, but I'm sure it can be done.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-s...n-air-dam.html

[rcy]

Originally Posted by The G Man

Just ti be fair Joe, I dont think any car company would take responsibility for something like this.

No they likely won't, nor will they admit the design flaw, however, in a future model update, one might see mesh mysteriously appear in that lower grill opening.

I followed a situtation very similar when I owned a 2006 Honda Odyssey. Several complaints regarding rock/debris damage to condenser. Honda said too bad, not our fault, road debris etc. However, in the 2008 onwards model, a mesh has been introduced to the lower grill.

So, you can look at it two ways - vehicle manufacturer sucks because they won't admit flaw and do a free repair, OR vehicle manufacturer is great because they redesigned the bumper to fix the flaw.

I imagine if there are enough reports of this happening, Lexus may introduce a screen in a later model update.

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Joe G

We recently took our 2010 RX350 on its 1st road trip. While traveling on the New Jersey Tpke, normal road conditions, something came up through the front lower air intake ducts under front bumper, damaging the radiator.
This caused the SUV to overheat. We had to be towed to a Lexus dealer in N.J., and then had to take a cab home to L.I. New York.
We feel this highend SUV should be better equiped with some modification to change the design of intake ducts or a possible guard in front of the radiator to prevent any damage. We feel strongly that the Lexus engineering team should consider looking into this matter.
Lexus is taking no responsibility for this repair.
Along with our towing bill, cab fare, the repair costs are mounting up.
All we did was take our highend SUV on a road trip which it is designed to do. Original mileage is 3000, purchased in February 2009.
If this happend to us, it can happen to another RX owner.

I feel for your frustration and can understand in this case how Lexus could maybe make a goodwill repair to keep you happy. Especially if the car is brand new.

I highly doubt that what happened was a engineering defect. My brother had a rock hit his air conditioning unit in his Sienna cause the AC to die. This happened in the first few weeks over ownership. It has never happened again. It was bad luck and that is what I see in your case.

Is insurance covering this? If so, then that is the right thing to do.

[Joe G]

Update fellow members – received a call from the N.J. Jersey dealership – repair was elevated to taking the engine out of RX350 to get to the cylinder heads.
Now it has been elevated to possibly replacing the engine completely since there is cylinder head gasket damage. We will know more tomorrow, 9/2.
No one wants to hear news like this regarding a brand new vehicle, 6 months old, 3000 original miles.
For our trouble, Lexus customer care sent us a coupon for a free oil change.
The coupon can only be redeemed at the New Jersey dealership.
When we called to explained to them (which we already have) we LIVE in New York, they said “will see what we can do.” To date, they have not called us back, spoke with them on 8/29.
Upset, you bet.
Lexus owners, we feel this simple modification is needed to eliminate the potential of doing this much damage to anyone else’s 2010 RX350.
The cost of this repair will rest with our insurance company.

[data2009]

Woa!!!

That's crazy. All this damage caused by a flying 'magic rock'? Did it take out the A/C compressor and the engine head gasket in one shot???

Something smells funny here, sorry to add salt to your wounds.

[Joe G]

Originally Posted by data2009

Woa!!!

That's crazy. All this damage caused by a flying 'magic rock'? Did it take out the A/C compressor and the engine head gasket in one shot???

Something smells funny here, sorry to add salt to your wounds.

I think you are confusing us with another member who had their A/C compressor taken out by a "magic rock."
We could only have "wished" it would have taken out our A/C Compressor instead of the raditor, less damage.
Remember, BOTH units are exposed due to these air ducts being too large.
Thanks for responding.
We appreciate the support.

[kitlz]

Wow, I know NJ roads suck but WTF? How about submitting the claim to the state? I know, fat chance.

Please keep us updated. I'm curious about what dealer you're working with. Some are better than others around here. And I'd tell Lexus to stick that coupon where the sun don't shine. What a joke, or rather, what an insult. I'd keep on them until they do the right thing. Good luck.

[Joe G]

Originally Posted by kitlz

Wow, I know NJ roads suck but WTF? How about submitting the claim to the state? I know, fat chance.

Please keep us updated. I'm curious about what dealer you're working with. Some are better than others around here. And I'd tell Lexus to stick that coupon where the sun don't shine. What a joke, or rather, what an insult. I'd keep on them until they do the right thing. Good luck.

To be very honest, the N.J. dealership has been more courteous and professional than the dealership we purchased the car from.
You CANNOT make this stuff up.
We will keep the members of this club updated.
Thank you for your well wishes, we really appreciate it and taking the time to respond.

[kitlz]

Joe G, I swear my 04 RX has more dings in the radiator than yours with no ill effects. Unfortunately you might be the first of many (I fear) that will have the same problem like the loose bumper. I hope your RX gets better soon and Lexus finally steps up.