Stolen headlights from RX400h
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I dont get it - what do you expect Lexus to do?
As to the Alarm, you can get an simple sensor on the hood that would activate when your hood opens. It comes standard with most basic alarms. You can get an radar sensor that will warn thieves away from an distance. Most thieves check cars for alarm before even attempting to steal anything because alarm makes it more obvious to the owner and police.
If you are not willing to take step forward and make your vehicle more secure, I can not see what should Lexus do about it.
In reality, car alarms are at best at warning off the thieves, not from preventing them from stealing you car. As an experienced professional in car alarm business, installing an proper alarm with appropriate sensor would be an no brainer for me to reccomend. I really see nothing that lexus can do to actually prevent someone from stealing your headlight, as long as they need to pop the hood to do it.
As to the Alarm, you can get an simple sensor on the hood that would activate when your hood opens. It comes standard with most basic alarms. You can get an radar sensor that will warn thieves away from an distance. Most thieves check cars for alarm before even attempting to steal anything because alarm makes it more obvious to the owner and police.
If you are not willing to take step forward and make your vehicle more secure, I can not see what should Lexus do about it.
In reality, car alarms are at best at warning off the thieves, not from preventing them from stealing you car. As an experienced professional in car alarm business, installing an proper alarm with appropriate sensor would be an no brainer for me to reccomend. I really see nothing that lexus can do to actually prevent someone from stealing your headlight, as long as they need to pop the hood to do it.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
I really see nothing that lexus can do to actually prevent someone from stealing your headlight, as long as they need to pop the hood to do it.
As far as what Lexus can do - well, they've made the stereo 'theft-resistant,' it's nearly impossible to hotwire the car because you can't break the steering column. I am sure there are other examples of the superb engineering/design (for which Toyota/lexus are known) that have been implemented as a response to vulnerable 'hot items.'
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How in the world did they find a way to steal your headlight? Man these theives blow my mind with what they can do. If only they could put those skills to use in a good way if that makes any sense. But any how, not long ago i did alittle test with the hood of my RX330, i left the hood slightly open, and look all the doors, and then i tried to open the hood, and the alarm went off like it was being mugged ha ha ha. So i really don't get how they where able to take your headlights with the alarm going off or maybe they found way around it, damn thevies.
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Originally Posted by russianmd
That's the problem - they don't have to pop the hood to do it. If (according to my internet dredging) the vandals can do it in as little as three minutes, an alarm would be useless.
As far as what Lexus can do - well, they've made the stereo 'theft-resistant,' it's nearly impossible to hotwire the car because you can't break the steering column. I am sure there are other examples of the superb engineering/design (for which Toyota/lexus are known) that have been implemented as a response to vulnerable 'hot items.'
As far as what Lexus can do - well, they've made the stereo 'theft-resistant,' it's nearly impossible to hotwire the car because you can't break the steering column. I am sure there are other examples of the superb engineering/design (for which Toyota/lexus are known) that have been implemented as a response to vulnerable 'hot items.'
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Originally Posted by spwolf
In reality, car alarms are at best at warning off the thieves, not from preventing them from stealing you car. As an experienced professional in car alarm business, installing an proper alarm with appropriate sensor would be an no brainer for me to reccomend. I really see nothing that lexus can do to actually prevent someone from stealing your headlight, as long as they need to pop the hood to do it.
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often when they steal RX330 headlights they just rip the fender up & out with a crowbar, undo 2 of 3 bolts (i think?) and rip the headlight out, breaking the 3rd tab. I say this because often an HID theft order is 2 headlights, 2 fenders & 2 fender liners; no hood or grille even. Sometimes an HID theft order is just 2 headlights; likely the car was left unlocked and the hood was opened, saving the fenders...
the headlight protection kit is going to have another bracket to hold the headlight down, plus a 'data dot' that will ID the bulb, lense & computer/ballast. The bracket in theorey makes it more difficult to remove the headlamp without removing the bumper cover (the new TSB has the tech removing the front cover....) Its going to be very labor intensive and teh Tech's will hate hate hate doing these.
I dont understand how this datadot will work, yet. It appears to be a paste/glue that has some microscopic identification. this identification is registered with datadot with the VIN# of the vehicle. Seems to do little but track the origin of the stolen pieces; little deterrent to theives who are after the projectors for a retrofit.
the headlight protection kit is going to have another bracket to hold the headlight down, plus a 'data dot' that will ID the bulb, lense & computer/ballast. The bracket in theorey makes it more difficult to remove the headlamp without removing the bumper cover (the new TSB has the tech removing the front cover....) Its going to be very labor intensive and teh Tech's will hate hate hate doing these.
I dont understand how this datadot will work, yet. It appears to be a paste/glue that has some microscopic identification. this identification is registered with datadot with the VIN# of the vehicle. Seems to do little but track the origin of the stolen pieces; little deterrent to theives who are after the projectors for a retrofit.
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I am sorry to hear about your situation. I witnessed once a Maxima's HIDs getting popped out while I was in my Sienna near evening in Newark back in January. I was simply amazed. Just pryed it out in a matter of minutes and was gone before anything could do anything with the headlight. Fortunately, not a lot of people know my Sienna have OEM HIDs so it's not much of a target. I didn't use my headlights until I was out of Newark. Was relying on the DRLs. The police didn't catch me either. Got a bit of weird stares but oh well, don't want to loose money on a headlight.
Let us know what happens with you and Corporate Lexus.
Let us know what happens with you and Corporate Lexus.
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I dont understand how this datadot will work, yet. It appears to be a paste/glue that has some microscopic identification. this identification is registered with datadot with the VIN# of the vehicle. Seems to do little but track the origin of the stolen pieces; little deterrent to theives who are after the projectors for a retrofit.
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Feedback from Lexus Corporate
They finally got back to me. The new brackets are considered 'an upgrade' - and are for RX330 only.
The offerred to pay my insurance deductible, which is better than nothing. Advised me that alarms 'have shown to be almost useless in preventing headlight theft.' Warned me that if I got a grille/brush guard, it would invalidate my warranty...
The offerred to pay my insurance deductible, which is better than nothing. Advised me that alarms 'have shown to be almost useless in preventing headlight theft.' Warned me that if I got a grille/brush guard, it would invalidate my warranty...
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They finally got back to me. The new brackets are considered 'an upgrade' - and are for RX330 only.
The offerred to pay my insurance deductible, which is better than nothing. Advised me that alarms 'have shown to be almost useless in preventing headlight theft.' Warned me that if I got a grille/brush guard, it would invalidate my warranty...
The offerred to pay my insurance deductible, which is better than nothing. Advised me that alarms 'have shown to be almost useless in preventing headlight theft.' Warned me that if I got a grille/brush guard, it would invalidate my warranty...
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Originally Posted by uthorns197
russianmd...You have a 400h, right?? Why in the heck would a grille/brush guard invalidate your warranty?? The only way I can see that happening is if the grille/brush guard were to interfere with the Hybrid Synergy Drive on the 400h. Under federal law, they cannot invalidate your warranty unless they can prove that the modification you installed caused "damage" to the vehicle.
So, anyone wants a near-new (2000 miles) flint-mica ext/light grey int RX400h? If you live in NY area, drop me a line. The car is being fixed right now - and will be in perfect condition when one takes possession of it.
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HID Theft
In Westchester County, NY they have a surveillance video that shows the theft of HID's from an RX...it takes approx 50 seconds. My sister's RX was victimized a few months ago, there were a few hundred cars (many RX's) hit that night all over NY. There is a TSB that will help slow the theft process, and according to my sources at Lexus there is talk of "self destructing" hid's.
As for the 400H not being able to mount a grill guard...I'm sure if you give the folks over at WAAG a call they would be more than happy to furnish you with one to use your vehicle as a test bed, given a) the high demand for the hybrid vehicle, and b) the theft of the lights.
I know at my wife's dealership they are supposed to be going to 400h's as loaners, so that will necessitate them having grille guards - I will see what they are planning to do as far as that goes.
WIfey's RX is in the garage, and I live on a dead end street, so if you are in my driveway, I don't know you and you weren't invited...there's gonna be a situation.
As for the 400H not being able to mount a grill guard...I'm sure if you give the folks over at WAAG a call they would be more than happy to furnish you with one to use your vehicle as a test bed, given a) the high demand for the hybrid vehicle, and b) the theft of the lights.
I know at my wife's dealership they are supposed to be going to 400h's as loaners, so that will necessitate them having grille guards - I will see what they are planning to do as far as that goes.
WIfey's RX is in the garage, and I live on a dead end street, so if you are in my driveway, I don't know you and you weren't invited...there's gonna be a situation.
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Originally Posted by Johnny Mo
In Westchester County, NY they have a surveillance video that shows the theft of HID's from an RX...it takes approx 50 seconds. My sister's RX was victimized a few months ago, there were a few hundred cars (many RX's) hit that night all over NY. There is a TSB that will help slow the theft process, and according to my sources at Lexus there is talk of "self destructing" hid's.
As for the 400H not being able to mount a grill guard...I'm sure if you give the folks over at WAAG a call they would be more than happy to furnish you with one to use your vehicle as a test bed, given a) the high demand for the hybrid vehicle, and b) the theft of the lights.
I know at my wife's dealership they are supposed to be going to 400h's as loaners, so that will necessitate them having grille guards - I will see what they are planning to do as far as that goes.
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As for the 400H not being able to mount a grill guard...I'm sure if you give the folks over at WAAG a call they would be more than happy to furnish you with one to use your vehicle as a test bed, given a) the high demand for the hybrid vehicle, and b) the theft of the lights.
I know at my wife's dealership they are supposed to be going to 400h's as loaners, so that will necessitate them having grille guards - I will see what they are planning to do as far as that goes.
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